What is your action on the turn here? calling or shoving all in. I felt like a shove was necesarry as I felt the NFD would be here fairly often and a shove my force it out of the hand considering I have no redraw.
Idk what to say but it is scary Board. MW pot and very often if someone has 6*** has also 5 or 7.
As played after MP bet for me in MW pot:
fold>call>raise
I think raise is the worst option. Only boats will call you. Hands like naked NFD or naked 6 fold
So as is, I call open from MP on the turn and fold to an all in from SB?
obviously having less players in the pot is helpful. I call and there are quite a high amount of poor river cards for me to see so i thought I would force poor FD's out.
4 way flop paired board... only <17% investment
MP lag enough pre to have wide enough range + our blockers + the other tighter guys are killing the top of the deck. If he has a 6 then he is very likely going to have a boat, the guy is not the preflop aggressor and he seems fishy enough to never be aware of BTN range being weak from checking flop + the other two guys are weak, so he just simply isnt bluffing in all lieklyhood in these stakes. His small bet is going to be value.
I think on flop I am only wanting my two J's, the turn hitting is ironic.
Seeing the results has changed the post I would have made if not read them, but I'm confident that i would have mucked my hand on flop to MP's bet regardless of any !J turn.
The results have also made my reasoning sound very bad, as it was SB who ambushed, this is not normally a thing I would accoutn for aside from quads as checking two streets with a boat is horrible imo, even though it caught your hand. SB was very lucky.
doesn't villain check ott if he doesn't have a straight or a boat instead of betting.
Yes, well not completely. I think there is a chance he stabs with a 6 here. I get what you are saying, my relative hand strength in this spot is pretty poor but i made a decision on the turn and went for it.