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11-05-2014 , 04:27 PM

yayacmtex

stranger

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 11

Hey, this hand worked out pretty fine for me, just wondering if there might be a reason to not 3bet my hand preflop. Thx

Pot Limit Omaha US$0.01/US$0.02
PokerStars
4 players
Formatted by pokercopilot.com - Mac OS X hand history analysis and tracking

Stacks:
UTG - UTG (US$3.00)
BTN - BTN (US$2.29)
SB - SB (US$2.53)
BB - Hero (US$2.00)

Preflop: (US$0.03, 4 players) Hero is BB with A

UTG calls US$0.02, 1 fold, SB raises to US$0.06, Hero raises to US$0.20, 1 fold, SB calls US$0.14

Flop: 3

(US$0.42, 2 players)
SB bets US$0.41, Hero raises to US$1.64, SB raises to US$2.33 (all-in), Hero calls US$0.16 (all-in), Uncalled bet of US$0.53 returned to SB

Turn: 6

(US$4.02, 2 players, 1 all-in)

River: 9

(US$4.02, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Total Pot: US$4.02
SB shows K

(a full house, Threes full of Kings)
Hero shows A

(a full house, Threes full of Aces)

Hero wins US$3.89

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11-05-2014 , 04:34 PM

hackprotech

adept

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 763

entire hand is really standard.

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11-05-2014 , 04:41 PM

yayacmtex

stranger

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 11

ok thx.

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11-05-2014 , 04:50 PM

Rei Ayanami

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 11,685

3b is fine. Jamming the flop is terrible.

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11-05-2014 , 04:59 PM

yayacmtex

stranger

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 11

ok, why?

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11-05-2014 , 05:38 PM

Rei Ayanami

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In simple terms: calling keeps in bluffs and doesn't lose value against worse boats that decide to pot out (those are getting stacks in later anyway). If you do raise, it should be to the minimum.

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11-05-2014 , 05:55 PM

Mt.FishNoob

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Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 12,241

You got lucky here, seeing as having K blocker and villain being so bad. So the hand is not standard.

Raising vs bad players is perfectly fine if they susceptible to think your bluffing

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11-05-2014 , 05:59 PM

yayacmtex

stranger

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 11

i see. thank you

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11-05-2014 , 06:03 PM

Mt.FishNoob

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btw calling range is not even that different to raising range, don't think I ever flat but min raising can tilt people, also he can have 2-4 outs

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11-06-2014 , 01:30 AM

#10

Lazaro

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,589

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Originally Posted by yayacmtex

Hey, this hand worked out pretty fine for me, just wondering if there might be a reason to not 3bet my hand preflop.

Not doing this to the pot raise button would be bad:

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12-03-2014 , 06:52 AM

#11

Wintergedaerm

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 129

3bet pre is standard, as you are very likely to play this pot heads up ip with a premium hand.

I would minraise on the flop too.
Especially with the K blocker villain is more unlikely to have KK, and is often folding everything worse to a potraise on the flop: wawb scenario.
If you minraise and get called, the psr on the turn will be 2:1, and its likely that you will get paid out the rest by a worse full.
If you just call on the flop, psr is worse then 1:1 and its harder to get your stack in good.

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12-03-2014 , 08:18 AM

#12

mumpfmampf

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Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,553

Call flop, call all the way.

You only won so much with your line because villain sucks and he also had a pretty good hand.

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12-03-2014 , 10:20 AM

#13

bettingbenji

newbie

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 43

I played a very similar hand the other day, the only real difference was the flop came 888 instead of 333 which was seen 3 ways...BB donk bet the flop, I called from the co and the button called. Turn Bb check, I bet button calls bb folds. I jam the river, get called Button has the last 8. I had no stats on the button player, so assumed he doesn't play much so he could call down with ttxx +..
What do you guys make of this play? Right? Wrong? Fishy? Lol

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12-03-2014 , 01:18 PM

#14

Mt.FishNoob

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^ That is way harder to stack off then OP hand.

More players in the hand, and 888 is more likely to connect with a range than 333

BTN calling flop is very worrying after bet and call already.

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12-03-2014 , 11:28 PM

#15

Lazaro

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,589

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Originally Posted by Mt.FishNoob

^ That is way harder to stack off then OP hand.

More players in the hand, and 888 is more likely to connect with a range than 333

BTN calling flop is very worrying after bet and call already.

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12-04-2014 , 12:59 AM

#16

crashwhips

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Originally Posted by yayacmtex

Any reason to not 3-bet?

Yes there are a couple very valid reasons not to 3-bet here

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