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08-26-2016 , 12:54 PM
villain is unknown stats wise ..

think this a total disaster from me but want the flame anyways hopefully encourgage me to quit or get better..

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37419925

Hero (BTN): $424.35 (212.2 bb)
SB: $194 (97 bb)
BB: $444.53 (222.3 bb)
UTG: $370.95 (185.5 bb)
MP: $179.85 (89.9 bb)
CO: $297.30 (148.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 Q A J
UTG raises to $7, 2 folds, Hero raises to $24, 2 folds, UTG calls $17

Flop: ($51) 9 5 2 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $46, UTG calls $46

Turn: ($143) A (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($143) 5 (2 players)
UTG bets $78.18, Hero raises to $354.35 and is all-in, ????

i think this is a total disaster as he wont have many 34 combos from utg range that i should have to check back against, but may have some better two pairs that he may attack?

i think this is a std bet on the turn right? we dominate his range for the most part i feel?

anyways i check and river is a 5 he leads which is what i wanna ask what is he leading here with? 99? a9? a5? 34 that he had in his range like maybe 3344ds or something? can i rep the nuts??

am i crazy i wanna rep aaxxcc that i slowplayed on turn or do i rep **** and should i just fold river?

thanks for answers
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08-26-2016 , 01:05 PM
Turn is pretty close between a check and a bet/call. Vs an unknown I guess I prefer bet/call since its harder to make a river read and since there's more random garbage that calls/gii on turn for whatever reason.

River raise is just not good at all vs an unknown. You're getting snapcalled by a 5 or straight. Its close to a call since unknowns like to lead random hands after you check, but I do still prefer just a fold.
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08-26-2016 , 01:10 PM
yeah thanks this is totally bad by me its best to post the worst hands i played though i guess thanks for your input makes alot of sense especially vs an unknown
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08-26-2016 , 01:11 PM
What do everyone think about the preflop 3b? Superstandard? Some of this(3b) and some of that (flat)?
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08-26-2016 , 01:14 PM
I think you are crazy trying to rep AA here after the turn play.

Pre:
Like the 3-bet

Flop:
I would check back here. We have the NFD and it gets really bad when we get check-raised without a pair. We have a lot of equity and the pot is big so we really don't want to get barreled off our hand and we aren't really strong enough to be happy about GII.

Turn:
As played I think you need to barrel. I would bet betting fairly large again with the plan to check back river most of the time.

If I had checkecked back flop I would be betting fairly large here as well. We need a decent amount of protection against random garbage and this card hits our range hard. We don't have AA a ton here but we have a lot of Axxx.

River:
As played I would be giving up river. He's barreling hard into a range with a lot of Axxx. I would bluff-catch a lot here depending on villian and notes but I don't think a raise accomplishes what you want at all. You aren't going to get really any folds from boats and potentially some trips but that can even be questionable. With clubs missing and us holding the reverse blockers I really hate the raise even more. We don't really have to turn our hand into a bluff.

If we played the prior streets how I wanted to I would be checking this back. If he leads I would likely be folding.
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08-26-2016 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
What do everyone think about the preflop 3b? Superstandard? Some of this(3b) and some of that (flat)?
I would be 3-bet this almost 100% of the time from button against any other open, against UTG open I still 3-bet this hand a lot but not anywhere close to 100%. Depends on the player UTG and the blinds, if the blinds are terrible then I'm more likely to flat since this hand has good playability multi-way as well.
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08-26-2016 , 02:54 PM
That's a fancy line
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08-26-2016 , 09:09 PM
You messed up every postflop street :x
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08-27-2016 , 02:54 AM
checking flop is fine for deception value but if you're going to bet you should bet a little less for balancing bluffs.. are you ever cbetting this much with air on this flop? If not i'm pretty much always putting you on at least Kxcc+ and am thinking about folding weak flush draws on the flop

bet the A turn for value as well... are you ever checking top set on this turn? Does anyone ever check any set on this turn in 3bet pot as preflop aggressor?

I think no, which makes your river play a catastrophic disaster
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08-27-2016 , 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
What do everyone think about the preflop 3b? Superstandard? Some of this(3b) and some of that (flat)?
"Facing a raise IP we 3bet 80% and flat 20% with this hand"

Against fish, tilt, donk, maniac I would raise 100%.
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08-27-2016 , 06:39 AM
I would say we need more than 60% foldequity every time villain has a better hand than us in this spot to make this an +EV move, when i did the math right. Do we have so much?
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08-27-2016 , 06:52 AM
Not likely
The hands better than us are boats or hands that likely contain Ax in them
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08-27-2016 , 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by z0mgtiltz
Not likely
The hands better than us are boats or hands that likely contain Ax in them
but the boats cant be that strong. i think we can exclude all 99xx, 95xx, and most of the aaxx hands here. there are not many boats left and these boats will fomd some times. or not?
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08-27-2016 , 07:37 AM
this shove looks more like a VB than a bluff to me
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08-27-2016 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by z0mgtiltz
Not likely
The hands better than us are boats or hands that likely contain Ax in them
but the boats cant be that strong. i think we can exclude all 99xx, 95xx, and most of the aaxx hands here. there are not many boats left and these boats will fomd some times. or not?
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