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05-24-2015 , 06:05 PM
Would you go all in every hand you can with Aces that are at least singlue suited?

I've been playing on bovada for the last 5 hours and this player through 400 hands stat line is insane.

vpip: 97%
prf: 81%
3bet: 51%

I've been all in with him now preflop 10 times all with me having aces and i have won 0. Is my play just a bad strategy?
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05-24-2015 , 06:39 PM
You're obviously always getting it in pre with AAxx.
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05-24-2015 , 06:46 PM
what would you suggest as a strategy to combat someone as crazy as that? He just left the table up 800 after i took back most of what i lost when he went nuts and didn't have it for the 1st time.
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05-24-2015 , 07:26 PM
I guess vs someone like this you just gii with any reasonable hand and print money. Also try to isolate him as much as possible
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05-24-2015 , 07:29 PM
Big bankroll + no tilting = HUGE HUGE profit over long run in these situations.
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05-24-2015 , 07:31 PM
Well against such a maniac I would suggest just to tighten up a little bit if he has position on you. If you're in position you can 3bet him very wide if he is the kind of maniac that is kinda super lose preflop but more tight/passive postflop. You can get yourself in very profitable spots with that strategy. With AAxx, if you can get in at least half of your stack pre you should obv do that against him. Just play the percentages, although it's always close and he will often have 35-45% against you pre, in the long run you will make a profit from these situations. That's why PLO is such a "fun-player"-attractive game. Really bad players can go on really huge short term heaters. Just deal with that and don't consider to change much on your overall strategy and it will be fine I think.
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05-25-2015 , 04:26 AM
OBV GII with any AA even rainbow AA72. 52% vs KQJTds PF

Isolate this guy with hands like ATJxss KQJxss from button, three broadway cards should do, then valuebet big with all 2 pairs+ and just try to hit and maximize value, dont bluff atall.
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05-28-2015 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Darkfangs
Would you go all in every hand you can with Aces that are at least singlue suited?

I've been playing on bovada for the last 5 hours and this player through 400 hands stat line is insane.

vpip: 97%
prf: 81%
3bet: 51%

I've been all in with him now preflop 10 times all with me having aces and i have won 0. Is my play just a bad strategy?
Assuming you had at least 55% equity preflop in average with all these AA-hands the chance that you lost them all in a row are less than 0,05%. Really would like to see your cash result graph against this guy.
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05-28-2015 , 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Controlling
Assuming you had at least 55% equity preflop in average with all these AA-hands the chance that you lost them all in a row are less than 0,05%. Really would like to see your cash result graph against this guy.
By the way: Always allin with AA** if you can. Wondering how you can question that even if you are running so bad.
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05-28-2015 , 09:25 AM
I play on bovada so I don't own holdem manager or pt4 so I don't have a graph. If I did have a graph it would be going straight down. It took about 10 hours of grinding to break even after playing that guy for how many hours I did.

The average pot size for the table in the period of time I was on it for plo25 was varying between $20-$60. About every other hand this guy was in he pushed the other player all in. He ran like a god and it was ridiculous. He was so deep stacked that if someone did double up on him once or twice he'd take it all back the 3rd time.

I did the equity calculations on the all-ins every hand preflop after the hand to see how it was going and the guy was playing any 4 cards against me. I never had less than 60% equity and there were hands I had over 70% where it was complete domination, and it didn't matter because he always hit.

The reason I made this thread was because maybe I was strategically playing incorrectly. Should I have been focusing more on postflop play rather than taking my preflop percentage because the guy never missed. The only pots I actually won were where the aces hit trips and even then the other guy showed down either 2 pair or lower trips.

This is me probably just being way to results orientated as I had just moved up to plo25 the day prior as a shot where I was willing to do a 10 buy-in loss and drop back down. It just felt insane that anyone could run that well so I figured I was the one doing something wrong.
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05-28-2015 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Darkfangs
I play on bovada so I don't own holdem manager or pt4 so I don't have a graph. If I did have a graph it would be going straight down. It took about 10 hours of grinding to break even after playing that guy for how many hours I did.

The average pot size for the table in the period of time I was on it for plo25 was varying between $20-$60. About every other hand this guy was in he pushed the other player all in. He ran like a god and it was ridiculous. He was so deep stacked that if someone did double up on him once or twice he'd take it all back the 3rd time.

I did the equity calculations on the all-ins every hand preflop after the hand to see how it was going and the guy was playing any 4 cards against me. I never had less than 60% equity and there were hands I had over 70% where it was complete domination, and it didn't matter because he always hit.

The reason I made this thread was because maybe I was strategically playing incorrectly. Should I have been focusing more on postflop play rather than taking my preflop percentage because the guy never missed. The only pots I actually won were where the aces hit trips and even then the other guy showed down either 2 pair or lower trips.

This is me probably just being way to results orientated as I had just moved up to plo25 the day prior as a shot where I was willing to do a 10 buy-in loss and drop back down. It just felt insane that anyone could run that well so I figured I was the one doing something wrong.
In fact you should be happy. Lets say: 10 times you get is allin against him with 65% average with a full stack. That means: 10x(65%x50$-25$)=10x(32,5$-25$)=75$ is your "win".

Keep going same way. Starting to play him postflop would make you loose more i think. Sounds like he would put always so much pressure on you that you would be folding too much and throw a lot of equity away. The upswing will come some day. ;-)
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