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Old 05-23-2012, 10:05 AM   #16
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Re: AKQJ double suited in 3bet pot oop

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Oh dear.
Good stuff. Care to elaborate?

At least they gave their honest opinion and pretty valid ideas actually until proven wrong.


Personally I would 4-bet PF. In my experience these mini 3-bets rarely are Aces.
As played I would put a small c/r setting the pot so I could shove the turn.
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Old 05-23-2012, 10:49 AM   #17
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Re: AKQJ double suited in 3bet pot oop

4betting pre. Calling flop is ok, calling turn is ok (not most of the times ofc). C/r flop is ok, c/r turn is ok.
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:26 AM   #18
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Re: AKQJ double suited in 3bet pot oop

yh you have to 4b here, it would be different if there were multiway possibilities as the hand is very dominating when it hits

you pretty much have 0 reads on flop. I think calling and raising are both ok, I like the call though and cr most of the deck, this turn is not so good, check call here evaluate river

actually dunno he is faiarly short if he bets turn... but its a balance between not folding out some stuff we want to bet river sometimes. I think I check just totry get some kind of tell or read
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:42 AM   #19
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Re: AKQJ double suited in 3bet pot oop

4bet pre for value for sure. calling is a mistake.. you dominate his range, your hand is awesome.

flop i think both c/c and c/r are fine... on turn, after c/c flop, c/r turn would be a mistake. why c/r turn?
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:54 AM   #20
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on turn, after c/c flop, c/r turn would be a mistake. why c/r turn?
For value and make him pay for hes draws.
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Re: AKQJ double suited in 3bet pot oop

I would not cr this particular turn. But in general +1 to slimy
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Old 05-23-2012, 12:07 PM   #22
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Re: AKQJ double suited in 3bet pot oop

I feel like most of these hands that get posted can be played anyway and its ok. I mean, you really cant make a mistake flatting pre OOP or 4 betting it. You cant make a mistake just calling the flop or leading or CR. The turn is where PLO gets tough IMO and weird river bets.
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Old 05-23-2012, 12:50 PM   #23
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Re: AKQJ double suited in 3bet pot oop

Flatting pre here is a clear mistake ev wise
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Old 05-23-2012, 01:29 PM   #24
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For value and make him pay for hes draws.
value against? notice we have all deck in your hand. only a backdoor heart would be bad...

but i see stacks now, against 60bbs stack, i also c/r turn.
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value against? notice we have all deck in your hand. only a backdoor heart would be bad...
I have no idea what a fella on plo10 would min 3bet from button with hes stack, but I would guess that hes calling c/r ott with any 2 p, any fd, any p + gs etc. If we just call we would jam every river, which is fine, but if he misses river then we won't make any additional payments to our bankroll.
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Re: AKQJ double suited in 3bet pot oop

im sorry, as i said in my last post i changed my mind, id crai turn too.
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Re: AKQJ double suited in 3bet pot oop

Surely this is a definite 4-bet pre?

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Really? Why is that? It looks like the perfect flop to lead out on. Is this because he called pre rather than 4-bet?
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Old 05-23-2012, 05:59 PM   #28
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Re: AKQJ double suited in 3bet pot oop

This is the most standard 4b preflop against THIS VILLAIN and his MINRAISE.

There are specific situations i wouldnt 4b this hand, but here its terrible not to do so.
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:32 PM   #29
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It looks like the perfect flop to lead out on. Is this because he called pre rather than 4-bet?
villain 3bet pre flop, he will cbet/bluff like everytime on this flop.

also we have all deck crushed, its hard for him to have something to counter-attack.
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