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Aces + NFD 300+bbs deep Aces + NFD 300+bbs deep

04-07-2016 , 10:25 PM
I kind of randomly decided to jump in this Zoom pool, just playing lower to try out a couple of things, and so both villains are unknown.

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 2893800
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BTN: $102.71
SB: $11.62
Hero (BB): $186.01
UTG: $55.77
MP: $53.16
CO: $156.13

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 6 8 A A
UTG raises to $1.75, 1 fold, CO calls $1.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $7.25, UTG calls $5.50, CO calls $5.50

Flop: ($22.00) 4 3 K (3 players)

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(My thoughts in the spoiler)

Spoiler:
My plan here was to check, to hopefully check-raise-get it in vs the 110bb stack. For a few reasons:
For one, if we just cbet and it just gets flat, then lots of turns are very awkward for us. It would suck to just have to check-fold some 2x, 6x, 7x turns etc vs the shorter stack shoving, when we have that much equity.
We can also get it in on the flop vs inferior flush draws, and/or lots of other hands that we're a favourite against on that flop, straight draws, KQJ10o etc.

Also, I thought if the 110bb stack bets, the other deep stack might flat, which we can then squeeze raise. And also maybe the bigger stack might try to isolate-raise the shorter stack lighter than he would have otherwise, now that I've checked, and we can get it in better for a lot.
Thoughts?


Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $10

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Thoughts appreciated.
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04-08-2016 , 12:26 AM
Flat pre vs unknown players. Homeboys aren't folding. Zooms pretty tight and utg's assumed range is pretty high card/Broadway pair+ connectors/2pair heavy. Hands you never get him to fold and co calls everything for obvious reasons. Now were stuck playing a bloated pot oop with mediocre aces.
As played.. I don't think you can check call because your hand's turned face up and villan doesn't make too may mistakes later on. I also think that utg should be betting here with any kind of a hand when we check to him. Yell pot at the monitor and gii. If called jam a few turns and check the rest.
Probs lead flop for 3/5 pot.
Anyone think differently?
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04-08-2016 , 12:42 AM
Yeah I did consider flatting pre. Though saying that Zoom is tight and also saying that they're not folding is kind of contradictory.

However I disagree that our hand is face up if we check-call. (not that I necessarily advocate check-calling, but) I actually think that they would never expect us to check-call with our hand. So they can definitely make mistakes later if they never expect us to check-call nut hearts, and are going to be over-bluffing later because of that.
You said after that you'd lead 3/5 pot, but if you think that UTG !should be betting here with any kind of a hand when we check to him!, isn't that all the more reason that we should check?
Also my question is what size would you check-raise, pot?
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04-08-2016 , 01:37 AM
When I say tight I'm referring to their opening ranges specifically. Once they vpip things change magically.
Squeeze pre and then check call a k43 dual tone with one person to act behind us.. Ummm.. Pretty face up IMO
I never said we were doing badly vs utg's opening range And yeah checking is better you're right.
Yeah pot, spr becomes 1:1
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04-08-2016 , 07:31 AM
I also can't think of a better line than x/r tbh. bet/broke flop, x/c turn doesn't seem too good concerning the river decision. b/f turn is not really cool either, as well as b/broke turn.
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