[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $9.75 (39 bb)
Hero (BB): $27.32 (109.3 bb)
UTG: $24.72 (98.9 bb)
MP: $30.40 (121.6 bb)
CO: $23.89 (95.6 bb)
BTN: $14.18 (56.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 9 7 9
UTG calls $0.25, MP folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN raises to $1.35, SB folds, Hero calls $1.10, UTG calls $1.10, CO raises to $6.30, BTN calls $4.95, Hero folds

With a possible multiway pot comming, I tough was better just folding my hand preflop for that big price fearing domination... it's ok?

Sry but you are incredible spewy preflop.
You have posted 3 hands that are clear folds pre.

You wouldn't play this hand? I'd play it for either a call or 3-betting myself.

This hand is strong enough to play in BB. I don't mind calling but usually prefer to 3bet as I don't like lots of multi-way action with it. Once CO limp/r here it's going to just be a fold here. CO usually shows up with a strong range and BTN's stack is such that he can jam here with the better part of his range and put you in a tough spot if you call the 3bet.

Calling this pre is wp imo. There's no way I'm folding this to a single raise but I would certainly consider 3 betting for the reasons above.

Folding this when it goes 3 bet, call is probably a pretty big mistake, i think, without looking at the equities. You're going to have ~35% here which is easily enough to call.

Ok i thought it was a bet and 3bet and he called

It was. Don;t know why everyone else mis-read it.

Calling is still OK though IMO.

I mean bet and 3bet and he cold called. Thats bad for sure. How the hand went it would be ok to call the 3bet 3way

Sorry but you seems to be incredible nit preflop

thsheriff: Thinking about it now, I really prefer 3betting to isolate because my hand has a lot of non nut components, just in the scenario the raiser is really nit with his ROLs I would call instead.

The problem I see when calling the limp raise, is that the pot is going to be 3way or 4way, and being multiway villains are just going to put money with the goods, and with a low SPR I will have a really tough situation when hit something with my non nutty hand for domination issues. I would be very more confident just folding in close spots postflop with higher SPR, or playing it HU.

I'm really confused. How can you 3bet to isolate in this situation.... when it gets to you in the BB you are already facing a 3b from BTN?

Sorry, technically I tried to say a 4bet to isolate

OK. Well no, don't 4b to isolate. We're just putting money in as an equity dog.

What domination issuses are you worried about facing? Sure, occasionally you will GII against an AKQx on JTx that has a better FD than you too and there will be some flops you have to be careful on and not get too carried away with. But then there are plenty flops which we smash - and that we can get rid of better FD's that have nothing else to go with it.

Anyway, forgot to add that I'm calling the 4b too. Part of the reason we can call 3b is we can also call 4b should that happen. Should be very easy post-flop to work out what flops we want to GII with

My light treatment to the 3bet of BTN is because we could consider it as a Raise over limper too, so my consideration about isolating was just against a loose raise over limper range. (Just to clarify)

In general terms, I expect the range from the player doing the raise over limp against 2 limpers be pretty strong, so I have to agree with you we would be putting money as underdogs preflop in most cases.

Just that cases you mentioned, and set vs overset, flushes vs overflushes, low straight vs high straights spots was my fears. (Spots I would not mind HU, but bother me more being the pot multiway).

Sorry for my english, it's not my mother lenguage.

We have a UTG limp, a CO overlimp and a button isolation raise. Folding our hand in the BB would be absolutely terrible. When the CO re-raises it gets more interesting. Might take on doing the math later, but a first glance I doubt this would be a -EV call.

Thanks

I did research and isolation raise or raise over limper is considered a 2bet and not a 3bet, I was getting confused LOL

Would you 3bet for iso this hand if BTN had a loose ROL range?

Usually if the action would be a bet/3bet scenario and we would take action than i usually fold cause i dont want to put ~12bb with a pair in my hand + dominated flushes multiway+risking 4bet. I dont think its spew but increases variance for sure if we are not against supertight ranges.
As the hand is happened ( limps and raise ) its a call ofc imo.

Isolating the button if you feel he is stealing himself may not necesarilly be too bad. The issue is that you have any TJQKA, cards which will likely be in BTNs calling range. Of course your percieved 4-bet range is stronger than this, but you are of course a severe dog to a 5-bet range which if you misjudge villain could happen a lot more often than you think.

Calling BTN open is fine, I prefer a call in this due to the fact that UTG and CO (limpers) will often have dominated draws when you enter the pot hitting 567 type flops so I prefer a call in that respect and keeping your investment in the pot lower considering equities run so close. You can always take the initiative when you hit pots MW and get calls of UTG and CO limpers who may have inferior draws.

In a 3-bet pot I fold, pair kills our hand.

Am I missing something here? Why do you talk about my perceived "4bet range"? BTN is 2betting, I would be iso 3betting.

Definitely calling now. I think the first call is fine too.

Reduce all numbers by 1, 4-bet to 3-bet