Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 3072388
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Hero (BTN): $4.21
SB: $6.67
BB: $5.00
UTG: $3.81
MP: $4.30
CO: $4.29

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with K 3 K 2
UTG raises to $0.17, 1 fold, CO calls $0.17, Hero calls $0.17, SB raises to $0.40, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.23, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.23

Flop: ($1.42) 4 9 J (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.42) 8 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $1.36, Hero ???



Hey guys, new to the forum, made the move to plo and looking for input on some hands.

Do i 4bet this pre after calling?
My flop check is terrible right?
What's my move on the turn?

Based on the action fold preflop. It's a trash hand basically and you see how getting roped into it because of your position made a bad situation worse.

You're beating air or a very small favorite.

Thanks for your reply!

Folding pre after all that action would've probably been a good choice perhaps...

lol @ folding pre

Folding turn though

How about the flop check back with second nfd? Terrible or?

Geez, really fold pre? Fold turn since you got no nut outs and might be dead already.
Checking flop behind is fine.

Folding pre is lol bad. You have double suited Kings in position. Flat seems fine and flat second time around seems fine as well.

Weird sizing though from SB when he can try to raise bigger and get stacks in against the UTG opener or at least narrow the field.

Since lack of nut outs and 4 way action this is a fold on the turn.

I think so. After all what sort of flop are we looking for that'll win a big pot?

The big-little non-nut double suitedness is the Siren Call drawing you onto the rocks.

Heya.

Given the action, I would
a) fold, if I have reason to believe the 3bet means Aces a lot.
b) 4bet big, if I have reason to believe the SB 3bets a ton with all sorts of hands and the UTG player is likely to fold.
c) Call and try to flop a set otherwise. Since we kinda ended up in case c), I would definately stab at the pot, if it is checked to me. If I get raised, I have an easy fold. If I don't like the turn and sby bets, I have an easy fold. If I don't like the turn and it is checked again, I can mostly see a free river and make up my mind then.

Wtf? Just wtf??? Guys just pls quit poker asap. Call pre pot flop and good night.

No.

A lot of players in SB's shoes pre-flop would only be squeezing (two callers of UTG raise) with AAxx hands.

Just ignore naggeri he only has 52 posts obviously no idea what he's talking about

Folding pre with anything is pretty crazy against that raise size, especially magnum kings. Bet/gii on the flop.

Just ignore rei he only has 11128 posts obv no idea what he is talking about

I'm curious as to why you think so? Hero has but one pair and non-nut flush draw. He has no blockers for str8.

I can see many draws/1-pair + draws check calling a pot size bet on flop.

Would you barrel on turn as well if you pick up a caller?

what is this thread? the SPR is 2

Beyond standard bet/call the flop, burning money with any other line

bet/call flop
fold turn as played

You have 38% EQ vs AA**, as PPT odds oracle gives us.
35% against AA**, 99**, JJ**, 44**

46% against a J98T type of hand.

That's as good as it gets with this hand OTF (unless you flop a nut set) or ~45A type of flops.

When you bet flop there is fold eq. You are in position so if the turn is a bad card for you you can still fold.

The 8 is a pretty bad turn for us so I would fold there, the type of hands that are high suited connecters made it here. T7/TQ, T9 with a combo of 2 pair might also bet or GII here.

Against a range that would GII there, simulated: J98T, T7**, TQ**, T9**, TQKJ.

You are a 25% favorite. So the turn is a fold and as played it's not that bad, you probably save yourself some dollars but your red line must go down alot (mine too).


I would like some comments on my advice as I am not perfect(far from), trying to learn

I'm pretty new to PLO.. Why are we not betting the flop in the op?

I've been putting in a ton of volume at PLO5 zoom lately and I have seen a lot of players using these smaller 3bet sizes. At first I assumed that they would be made with ace heavy ranges like most 3bets in PLO. However, I haven't found this to, empirically, be the case. I have taken to 3 betting premium non AA hands in these spots. While I have run into aces on occasion, I think that it doesn't happen often enough to make the 4bet pre unprofitable here, especially with another player either coming along with a range you are ahead of or leaving some dead money in the pot.

I feel like the most common hand types you will be up against are actually double suited hands and smaller pairs with decent connectivity. My strategy is to 4bet these spots and take a note when I get shown aces. I've only had to take that note a couple of times.

Flop is easy bet/call as others have said. As played turn is very easy fold

I actually just went back to holdem manager and used the filters to check out how my memory holds up here. Out of 31 times I raised from ep/mp and reached a showdown at 5pl or 10pl I have only seen aces 1 time. Obviously that doesn't mean that you can't be up against aces, just that it might not be the most likely hand to 3bet for this sizing.