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50PLO - Do we have a small-raising range here? 50PLO - Do we have a small-raising range here?

03-05-2014 , 07:27 AM
I'm posting this hand because I wasn't sure if I should have a raise/folding range here, and if so, what sizing should I use.

I felt like SPR was too deep for me to just pot it with all the hands I want to raise, given his small cbet, because It's possible I would want to cr/fold as a bluff with a hand like KKQQ with backfdoor FD, planning to jam turns where I improve my hand/draw or turns that are very good for my flop c/r range. I don't know if KKQQ is the best example for a bluffing candidate here, but that's not the main point I guess.

It is possible I can just c/c a marginal hand like that. In this case I'd be raising flop to stack off, so potting would make sense.

Any input appreciated.

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 4 players
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BTN: $67.05
SB: $68.26
BB: $3.78
Hero (CO): $92.36

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with J T A 8
Hero raises to $1.50, BTN raises to $5.25, 1 fold, BB calls $3.28 all in, Hero calls $3.75

Flop: ($14.53) 8 6 J (3 players - 1 is all in)
Hero checks, BTN bets $8, Hero raises to $21.50

Last edited by Ph33roX; 03-05-2014 at 07:45 AM.
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03-05-2014 , 09:29 AM
Yes you should have a raise/folding range this deep against tight villains whose three betting range will not connect very well with this flop (I would guess 1%-8%). The wider they are three betting, the less you will want to raise fold.

I think the decision to raise fold here should have more to do with villains range, and less to do with your hand.

Sizing could be a bit bigger, but seems ok, you have alot of combo draws in your range, and you cant really "protect your hand" on this flop against hands that will continue since they will mostly be combo draws that can call or shove over big raises.

The fact BB is all in change the dynamics a bit too.
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03-05-2014 , 09:46 AM
honestly, stacks aren't deep enough and the board texture is a little to dynamic, that i would feel the need to establish a r/f range there.
i could imaginge some hands i'd like to r/f there, but most of them shouldn't be in anyones preflop range.

i prefer to have a balanced donk/folding + donk/calling range.
actually the hand you posted would fit into my donk/calling range pretty well.
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03-05-2014 , 10:09 AM
Captiano does that mean that your checking range is almost always check/folding?
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03-05-2014 , 10:35 AM
I thought this was PLO25 200bb deep sorry. Don't raise fold here.
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03-05-2014 , 10:36 AM
no, sry i probably didn't say that clearly. i don't really mind the c/r at all and the hands in our donk/gii range fit pretty well in a c/r range, too.
just in that specific spot i'd prefer donking>c/r cause btns 3betting range is fairly wide (so: less cbets).
so, regarding our gii range, i'd probably suggest smthn like 75% donk/gii; 25% c/r
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03-05-2014 , 10:44 AM
Thanks. Just to be sure:

Villain is betting 8 into 14, and he has 62$ behind. If I understand correctly you suggest we check-pot/gii with our raising range here?

How much should he have behind before we stop raising pot (assuming we cover him)?
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03-05-2014 , 10:58 AM
yes, c/r pot or close to it. i doubt we can induce anything with a smaller sizing so we might as well charge the maximum.
say, we both have $100+, i probably wouldn't feel comfortable to c/r with our particular holding at all, cause turns are gonna get awkward. i'd suggest donking or c/c'ing then
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