not much with villian 65 hands, 27/17/15 aggr 4.0
me playing aggr 30/20/7.8 aggr 3.2
please comment what would you do here sb vs bb in this situation. ty
Preflop: Hero is UTG with A K K 9
Hero calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, BTN raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10.75, 2 folds, BTN calls $7.75
Flop: ($23.25) T J 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $18, BTN raises to $41.18 and is all-in, Hero calls $23.18
Turn: ($105.61) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in) River: ($105.61) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Spoiler:
Results: $105.61 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: T J 5 6 2
BTN showed A A 2 T and won $103.11 ($51.18 net)
Hero showed A K K 9 and lost (-$51.93 net)
I'm afraid of the impression of Moscow poker school these hands make (though I'm not doing any better) but I'm bumping them as they can't get unanswered.
Please don't post results, spoilers are so tempting that I look them up though it's clear you mostly post beats. They make my answers nittier than they should be.
They're all about overestimating non-AA overpairs, except for hand 1 preflop where I can find a 4bet vs the aggro opp because the hand is really premium.
Flop 1 fits his wide 3bet range very well, he'll often have random 2p/sets/straights/AT+NFD here, you're way behind AA so just c/f. The turn c/r is good, it extracts value from AA/AT+NFD.
In hand 2 BTN is much tighter so I'd fold A*** dominated hands (especially when the ace isn't suited) UTG to his 3bet into three opps. However, I'm likely to understand those who 4bet this too if they explain their reasons, the hand is only a bit weaker than hand 1. C/f flop 2 as well because JT5r fits BTN's non-AA range pretty well.
In hand 3 it's better to flat call his 3bet, the 4bet is a spew and calling the 5bet is marginal because the stacks are so shallow, you'll need 28% equity to call flop but will get it only half the time, those times when you call his shove you'll have 55-60% average equity depending on his 5bet range (if he's seen you 4bet wide before, he can become looser), it's better for you if his range is AA exclusively which shifts your preflop decision towards the call.
Could you share your secret of going up from PLO25 to PLO100? I'll have to follow your path this year. (You may PM me in Russian )
Oh sorry, I didn't understand that you limp/reraised in hand 2. Well, then it's still better to openraise to narrow the field or maybe to limp/call to setmine if the table is overly loose-passive. The hand doesn't deserve getting it in preflop, and anyway if you are trying to do this (vs more aggro raisers than this BTN), a bit smaller sizing like $10.50 is more appropriate because MP's push would then reopen betting for you (i.e. give a chance to 5/6-bet).
Also, limp/3betting is a non-standard line and I find it hard to balance. It's my leak but I'd insta-put you on KK, even though I've been told people do this with medium rundowns too. If you have a good way to balance your limp/3betting range, you may share it here.
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hand 3 is ultra spew
Why Russians are perceived as the biggest spewers in the world is an interesting topic. I think that's because of the depressive state of events in the country and the eternal desire of Russian soul for freedom, smth like that.
Last edited by coon74; 05-26-2012 at 10:52 AM.
Reason: Mysterious Russian soul
Why Russians are perceived as the biggest spewers in the world is an interesting topic. I think that's because of the depressive state of events in the country and the eternal desire of Russian soul for freedom, smth like that.
sorry for off-topic, but i've always seen russians as nits, not spew-monkeys, based on my sample size. not sure what the common perception is, but obv lucky-gump is one of the best and most respected players.
but i've always seen russians as nits, not spew-monkeys
From the Finnish view, maybe. Poker player styles by country
What's the average age of your Russian opps? Afaik our history, there are two distinct generations of Russian players, despite some exclusions, but anyway our range is more polarised between nits and maniacs. The 'offline generation' - Kirill Gerasimov, Alex Kravchenko, Konstantin Puchkov, to some extent Alex 'joiso' Kostritsyn, Alexey 'luckygump' Makarov, Ivan 'soul' Demidov - are tight because 1) there was little poker literature in Russia before ~2005 and 2) offline games were flooded by ultraloose businessmen and nitty play had its value. (Btw Minsk poker clubs are still ultrafishy in our days and they seem the only place on the earth where you can play live $7 tourneys and PLO10 .) The younger players - Max 'decay' Lykov, Kirill 'Crazy Raccoon' Telezhkin, Andrey 'Kroko-dill' Zaichenko (edit: he's rather old but started late), Andrey 'angier' Pateychuk - didn't manage to gain much experience in legal poker clubs as they closed before long, so they learned to play on the Internet and adopted aggro manners. Omaha is less Russian than Hold'em so yeah, luckygump and joiso are the best known Russian omahists but Kroko-dill has good Omaha (mostly O8) results too.
Well if serious i was on mega tilt hitting 40000 hands downswing on 100plo, i am not that much of a spew retard usually and my gf asked me to post this spewage just to listen what people think of my spew game in last 5000 hands^)
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i was on mega tilt hitting 40000 hands downswing on 100plo
Oh, that's gross. Run good, gl!
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my gf asked me to post this spewage
Given that she knows 2+2 is a forum and not only 4, she must be a good catch. Judging by the fact she knows how many hands you play, either she's golden or you're a chatterbox. Rather she's golden as she can stand your sick day regimen. Gfs can be tiltbreakers or tiltinducers, make sure that yours is the former case and not the latter.
Final thought: maybe most Russians are spewmonkeys because most Russian women are tiltinducers, this effect is multiplied by vodka.
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.) The younger players - Max 'decay' Lykov, Kirill 'Crazy Raccoon' Telezhkin, Andrey 'Kroko-dill' Zaichenko (edit: he's rather old but started late), Andrey 'angier' Pateychuk - didn't manage to gain much experience in legal poker clubs as they closed before long, so they learned to play on the Internet and adopted aggro manners. Omaha is less Russian than Hold'em so yeah, luckygump and joiso are the best known Russian omahists but Kroko-dill has good Omaha (mostly O8) results too.
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