I levelled myself into a call here.. Villain has 16% 3b stats. 44% cbet.
Like I was thinking my hand was so face up on the river, that he might have had like kqjt that he turned into a bluff or some random float that hes now bluffing. But when i rethink it, its pretty unlikely these guys are turning a King into a bluff here or getting too out of line... sigh

Game started at: 2015/7/22 20:45:43
Game ID: 448737881 0.25/0.50 Hateilite (PRR) - 4 (Omaha)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: desnica (50).
Seat 2: DecentPC (81.05).
Seat 4: lilsnapsbak (67.43).
Seat 5: iBetOnJesus (115.89).
Seat 6: janes5 (91.69).
Player janes5 has small blind (0.25)
Player desnica has big blind (0.50)

Decentpc- AcJcTc6c
I'm UTG, Villain is BTN
Player DecentPC raises (1.50)
Player lilsnapsbak folds
Player iBetOnJesus raises (5.25)
Player janes5 folds
Player desnica folds
Player DecentPC calls (3.75)
*** FLOP ***: [Ad Kc 3h]
Player DecentPC checks
Player iBetOnJesus checks
*** TURN ***: [Ad Kc 3h] [Ah]
Player DecentPC bets (7.12)
Player iBetOnJesus calls (7.12)
*** RIVER ***: [Ad Kc 3h Ah] [Kh]
Player DecentPC checks
Player iBetOnJesus bets (17)
Player DecentPC calls (17)

Most hand histories from America's Cardroom won't convert

I fold pre, c-bet flop, barrel turn, and i think river is close. C/f or c/call, player dependent

16% 3bet, were doing decent enough to call. Why would u bet flop when he has a high likelihood of bluffing this flop with his weaker range and what better hand is he folding???

I think he meant don't open this UTG pre. The 6 dangler and monotone suits diminish a lot of the value of this hand I would think.

We are deep enough to bet/fold on the river. I would do about 1/2 pot.

As played I think we have to fold. Looks a lot like a flush. Not sure about ACR but the Bovada population wouldnt bet Kx here for value.

B/f might be good actually, if hes checking back his Kx + gs on the flop. I think most people would cbet all their air, kqjt, kk, ak, aa otf. Maybe might get tricky with aa.

He actually showed up with QQ + hearts which is kind of weird. I wouldnt expect too much showdown value with QQ and would cbet

Preflop the 6 was a diamond actually. If it was a 5 i would fold for sure but yea i guess it is pretty loose. The rake race on acr is jus too good though, gotta open up a bit

AJT[2-5] is > AJT6

Just ran equities and yea 42.32% vs 43.78%. Not by much but did not expect that at all. I guess its cus it makes more straights huh

Ajt5 is 43.94% and makes same amount of straights as ajt6 so i have no idea actually

Nvm its cus 16% range has higher cards and will block the 987 straight more often

Yeah AJT[2-5] will flop a straight (or a straight draw) slightly more often than AJT6.



(Rainbow to exclude flushes.)



This comparison doesn't hold with hands like AQT6 and AQT2, because now the T6 connectivity is no longer redundant.

Total facepalm for me... dunno why I keep forgetting that the JT and the T6 make the same straight -____-

Appreciate the PQL queries bro. Haven't gotten around to learning the syntax myself, is it worth the trouble? I jus use the How often does player X match hand range xxx when I wanna know the frequencies for certain hands.

I fold pre regardless of the dangler we have, having 4 of a suit isn't that much better than a rainbow hand. (I fold to 3bet too I think)

edit: Rake race still wouldn't make this an open. Play an extra table and/or open up wider CO/BTN and defend wider in BB. UTG you want to keep it tight esp with such an aggro BTN.

wow, didnt even see the 3bet. Def fold to a 3b.

How did you do that in PPT?

hey,
i'm trying to find out if 5789 or 5679 is stronger(and esp. WHY) and stumbled upon this thread. I made a pql query but i'm very new to this and wanted to ask if i did it right.

does this query tell us how often we flop more then 4outs or how often we actually flop a straight?

Gaps at top = weak, gaps at bottom = strong

i already read that. I would like to have exact numbers tho. Maybe you can explain why gaps at top=weak and gaps at bottom=strong

I don't use PQL that often at all. I think regular PPT/OO has most of what you need. You can learn it if you find this sort of thing fun, but if you want to use your time more practically, I wouldn't bother.

http://propokertools.com/pql

Click the "Sample PQL Queries" for a lot of examples. It can be tricky to use at times, but you very often can modify the existing examples for your own sims.

How often you flop four or more outs. >8 (OESD or better) and >12 (decent wrap or better) are also both relevant. So is how often you flop the nuts:

You can also use the ranking function on the main PPT page (relevant suits should be included), although keep in mind that it has serious limitations (overvalues pure equity), so it absolutely shouldn't be used to compare the value of two very different hand types (e.g., KKxx vs. a rundown), or to figure out what hands to include in, say, a 20% opening range.

This is ususally the case, although 9875 vs. 9765 seems to be one of the rare exceptions. I'm too tired to try to figure out why.

Top gaps tend to hurt your ability to make a nut straights (either flopped nut straights or nut straight draws) more than bottom gaps.





(~0.65% or so chance of boats/quads is figured in, fwiw.)

But for these particular hands it doesn't make much of a difference.

thx rei that helped alot.
I played around with it a bit and it seems that 9756 flops 12+outs more often but 9875 flops the nuts more often

In Odds Oracle its tools->PQL Interpreter