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04-13-2017 , 01:45 PM

roddy17

newbie

Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 27

Playing 50pl on a site that doesn't allow HUDS, No real info on villain, not played many hands with him. Was wondering what people thought about this hand should I fold river, or play any other streets differently ?, Any comments appreciated.

5 Handed

Hero Open J

to $1.75 from UTG from $57 stack

Folds to villain who calls in SB from $73 stack, BB folds

Flop 9

Villain checks, Hero bets $2, Villain check raises to $6.50, Hero calls.

Turn: 9

Villain bets pot $17 , Hero calls

River: 9

Villain shoves, Hero has $32 behind.

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04-13-2017 , 02:00 PM

Gillingham

adept

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 932

call river play all streets the same, don't know what you could do differently

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04-13-2017 , 02:02 PM

md46135

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 420

you lost and he had 99 is my guess, if you won this hand you would never post. I would just shove turn, with 2 jacks you block draws heavily and when he bets pot he's never folding.

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04-13-2017 , 04:36 PM

DoOrDoNot

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,763

How do you feel about our relative hand strength here?

I don't feel good about it, especially on this river.

Not saying fold, just try and think of some hands an average villain takes this line with that we beat.

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04-13-2017 , 06:49 PM

SeaKing

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 5,387

No way you won this hand and and made this thread so obv answer is to fold.

Honestly though at 50 this is probably a way under bluffed line given this runout so if you don't think he will value stack himself with 98 you should probably fold. Also not having a HUD is certainly not an excuse for not having reads on the opponents lol.

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04-13-2017 , 10:15 PM

illiterat

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Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 2,485

Without reads on a single villain I probably check flop, we aren't scared of any bad turns and it's nice to have ok 8s in our range. If we get check raised we aren't in a good spot vs. anyone sane (can't fold easily; block draws; block our FH outs; most 8s that do it have J9 crushed).

As played on flop I probably shove turn and hope he has worse.

As played to river, *shrugs* both options suck so I probably call. That A should be much better for your range, though he could be thinking that he's never folding so why not put it in directly.

Assuming he has 99, unless it's a very good 99 I'd mentally note that he's a massive fish.

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04-15-2017 , 02:18 PM

roddy17

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Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 27

Thanks for comments, Yeah I lost the hand because I decided to fold on river, felt like he had 99 or A8 to often and not sure if he would shove river with 89, I couldn't see him bluffing enough here, prob should have shoved turn like a few of you said. Interesting comment about checking flop didn't even really consider this when I was playing but I like idea and reasons for it.

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04-16-2017 , 06:16 AM

monikrazy

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Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 28,055

Agree with shove turn

River is pretty close as played, I don't hate a fold in a vacuum

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04-16-2017 , 07:49 AM

Loctus

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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 11,160

How does the way we play this out change if we have 89TJ instead? Or JJ89

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04-18-2017 , 05:55 AM

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AveeMaria

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 3,714

Check back flop. As played, I agree with turn jam.

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04-19-2017 , 10:17 PM

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doctorflush

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Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 530

The great great game of pot limit Omaha
Love it why fold with 4 card

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