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50 6m, QQT9, b/f trips ott? 50 6m, QQT9, b/f trips ott?

09-19-2014 , 01:34 PM
    Merge, $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #30804491

    MP: $46.07 (92.1 bb)
    CO: $50.09 (100.2 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $50.57 (101.1 bb)
    SB: $50.19 (100.4 bb)
    BB: $62.01 (124 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with T Q 9 Q
    MP calls $0.50, CO folds, Hero raises to $2.25, 2 folds, MP calls $1.75

    Flop: ($5.25) 6 9 2 (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $3.50, MP calls $3.50

    Turn: ($12.25) 9 (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $6.50, MP raises to $31.75 ($40 total),




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    Vil is 75/8, 17% agg, 52% f2cb, 143 hands
    50 6m, QQT9, b/f trips ott? Quote
    09-19-2014 , 02:34 PM
    With two overs, I might be inclined to call against a more aggressive villain. But against a loose passive player's turn check/shove, maybe it's a fold.

    I think it comes down to reads. If you know he can c/s 98xx here, then call. If he generally has rundowns like 9876, then fold.
    50 6m, QQT9, b/f trips ott? Quote
    09-19-2014 , 02:57 PM
    looks like villain will have an underhouse or a better 9 i would usually bet turn bigger, but with this sizing you can b/f happily
    50 6m, QQT9, b/f trips ott? Quote
    09-20-2014 , 06:24 PM
    Pretty close spot, leaning toward a fold.
    50 6m, QQT9, b/f trips ott? Quote
    09-20-2014 , 06:58 PM
    Would you guys change your mind if hero had 9TQJ for instance?
    (Just because it gives more outs for a overfull).

    I wouldn't because my outs could well be blocked.
    50 6m, QQT9, b/f trips ott? Quote
    09-20-2014 , 07:23 PM
    You have a close call if he's shoving a random non-boat 9xxx.


    ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
    226,560 trials (Exhaustive)
    board: 6929
    Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
    TsQh9cQc37.51% 75,84518,274
    7%-70%:9!(96,92,22,66)62.49% 132,44118,274

    You need ~36.4%. The looseness of villain's preflop range is an important contributing factor as well; against 7%-35% you are doing much worse.

    That might be pretty optimistic -- 9x shoves can easily be weighted more towards A9/K9, and there's no reason >0 22/66 combos can't check-jam.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hakuba07
    Would you guys change your mind if hero had 9TQJ for instance?
    (Just because it gives more outs for a overfull).

    I wouldn't because my outs could well be blocked.
    It should improve your equity quite a bit.

    ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
    224,800 trials (Exhaustive)
    board: 6929
    Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
    TsQh9cJc41.47% 79,13228,206
    7%-70%:9!(96,92,22,66)58.53% 117,46228,206

    But if you assume he's more likely to jam boatless A9-Q9 than J9-92, and that he'll sprinkle in at least a few boats, it isn't quite enough:

    ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
    600,000 trials (Randomized)
    board: 6929
    Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
    TsQh9cJc32.61% 153,55584,228
    7%-70%9!(96,92,22,66)A,K,Q))@100,7%-70%9!(96,92,22,66,A,K,Q))@40,7%-70%(22,66)!(9))@1067.39% 362,21784,228

    lol, PPT sims and 2+2's smileys don't get along.

    A9xx and K9xx with four individual ranks would be clear calls against that range. >50% of OP's 9x+ (including boats) will be at least as strong as K9xx with four individual ranks.

    Last edited by Rei Ayanami; 09-20-2014 at 07:28 PM.
    50 6m, QQT9, b/f trips ott? Quote
    09-21-2014 , 09:03 AM
    i fold.
    50 6m, QQT9, b/f trips ott? Quote

          
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