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50 6m, AKK6, cb, call, shortstack jam 50 6m, AKK6, cb, call, shortstack jam

12-18-2013 , 03:16 PM
    IPoker, $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #21748011

    SB: $23.63 (47.3 bb)
    BB: $24.27 (48.5 bb)
    UTG: $92.11 (184.2 bb)
    MP: $59.59 (119.2 bb)
    Hero (CO): $63.53 (127.1 bb)
    BTN: $61.46 (122.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with K 6 A K
    2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, SB folds, BB calls $1

    Flop: ($4.75) 9 J 3 (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $3.80, BTN calls $3.80, BB raises to $19.95 (2 back), Hero




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    Btn is 60/6, 38% agg, 53% f2cb, 8% raise cb, 380 hands
    BB is basically all in, 32/13, 40% agg, 14% f2cb 72hands
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    12-18-2013 , 04:20 PM
    Think it's reasonably spewy to do anything but fold here.
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    12-18-2013 , 05:46 PM
    Fold
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    12-18-2013 , 06:05 PM
    +1 to folding
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    12-19-2013 , 05:21 PM
    Nice sizing on the flop c-bet.

    Unfortunately, we got check/raised.
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    12-19-2013 , 06:00 PM
    I'd jam with bd equity and our hand can often be good vs BBs range as he is often jaming lighter here.

    considered checking flop, but it seems like a worse option given board texture.
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    12-19-2013 , 08:26 PM
    ^^Probably needs the numbers running as I don't know exactly how close it is but in a single raised pot I think it's very unlikely that we're behind BB's shoving range unless we widen that to being sort of any Jxxx etc, any 1098x etc and so on. Given it's plo50 and admittedly I have little no know idea what the majority of stack offs are like but I'm guess we're probably behind. Add on the fact that we have a player behind who can randomly be strong here 99xx etc, J9xx etc and be flatting to 'see a safe turn' or whatever weaker lower stake guys love to do, I think it makes it a def fold.
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    12-19-2013 , 08:28 PM
    anyone not cbetting here?

    think i check hoping it gets checked thru with all our bd equity
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    12-20-2013 , 04:59 AM
    Not cbetting, but this is one of the best flops I wouldn't Cbet. Hope that makes sense.

    As played, fold, regret Cbetting.
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    12-20-2013 , 06:49 AM
    in reality everyone saying he wouldnt cbet, would in fact cbet this texture 80%+ of the time in a everyday grind.

    results are shown
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    12-20-2013 , 07:10 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DaYu
    Nice sizing on the flop c-bet.

    Unfortunately, we got check/raised.
    this
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    12-20-2013 , 07:54 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bartolomeus
    in reality everyone saying he wouldnt cbet, would in fact cbet this texture 80%+ of the time in a everyday grind.

    results are shown
    Only if I didn't notice the pot was 3 way
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    12-20-2013 , 07:55 AM
    Shipping because of stack sizes. More worried about btn than bb actually..
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    12-20-2013 , 09:56 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SlimyF
    Shipping because of stack sizes. More worried about btn than bb actually..
    +1
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    12-20-2013 , 10:32 AM
    Do you guys encouraging shipping care to elaborate a bit?
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    12-20-2013 , 12:08 PM
    Dead money in the pot, we have nut-backdoors and enough equity to stack off vs BBs overall range.

    BTN is folding often enough and splitting outs with BB in certain spots

    without all the bd equity id b/f otf.

    and if BTN slowplays hands like J9 99 JJ here 3 way here, gl to him, unless its specifcly JJQT
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    12-20-2013 , 12:12 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lazaro
    Do you guys encouraging shipping care to elaborate a bit?
    14% f2cbet.
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    12-20-2013 , 12:47 PM
    pretty much everything barto said. we obv gotta be worried about btn more. his range should be pretty weak though.
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    12-20-2013 , 01:44 PM
    If we get it in 3ways:

    board: Jd9h3s
    Hand Equity Wins Ties
    AhKdKh6d 20.97% 125,573 501
    99, 33$ds, J9, QTK, JTQ, JT8, 9TQ 43.41% 239,836 41,266
    35%: JJ, 99A, 33RR!AA, J9, J3, JT8, 9TQ, QTK, JQT 35.62% 193,103 41,210


    If is goes HU:


    board: Jd9h3s
    Hand Equity Wins Ties
    AhKdKh6d 33.44% 200,390 541
    35%: JJ, 99A, 33RR!AA, J9, J3, JT8, 9TQ, QTK, JQT 66.56% 399,069 541


    I think we need ~26% to get it in 3 ways, 34% to get it in HU. Still folding
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