Villain is super tight, when he check raises flop his range is AA/AJ/88.
By having Jh, I can't put him on a combo draw. Spewy of me to 3b OTF when villain is so capped but hey ho let's get stacked.

I think if I 3b flop, I should go for smaller sizing. Otherwise I should just call.

Thoughts?




PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $181.99
SB: $48.25 (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
BB: $206.90 (VPIP: 8.06, PFR: 3.23, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 63)
UTG: $51.75 (VPIP: 19.34, PFR: 13.16, 3Bet Preflop: 4.85, Hands: 4,702)
MP: $87.27 (VPIP: 27.05, PFR: 14.97, 3Bet Preflop: 6.20, Hands: 2,793)
CO: $257.62 (VPIP: 17.53, PFR: 12.86, 3Bet Preflop: 5.21, Hands: 4,126)

SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has J 5 J 4

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.75, fold, BB calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.75, 2 players) J A 8
BB checks, Hero bets $2.95, BB raises to $7.50, Hero raises to $26.06, BB raises to $81.74,

for sure he has AAA when he goes to 81. you have 10 nut outs getting 2:1 which is not really enough. we know 9 cards, his AA, your 4 and the 3 cards on the board. 43 left. so u r 3.3:1 against improving on the turn. you probably do get the rest in @ 80% if you do hit. so there is another $60 in implied odds. no you have to fold this hand to his $81.74 raise.

I don't see any reason to be 3betting a "super tight" villain here. Call, see a turn, play some poker, and either make a tight, but reasonable fold, or let a super nit value town himself.

this.

do we call 3 streets with second set if no real draws fall though?

This is where all of your history and reads, timing and sizing tells, game flow, etc. come into play. It's hard to say because everything gets very hypothetical at this point, and depends on different variations of all of those factors.

Worst, but very unlikely scenario, is that he has AAxxhh, in which case we are screwed and are drawing to a J, or like a runner runner magical wheel hit. Everything else we are either ahead of, or pretty live against. So yeah, I call just about all turn cards, and then make a decision on the river.

Flop 3b vs described villain is awful and just burning money. Just call the flop raise and don't get fancy vs nit, against who you might have 1 out. Go slow and try to get there(str8/flush/jack) and then reevalute.
Call flop, call improving turns and decide river.

If you have all those reads, why would it be "hard to say"?

If his timing means nuts, fold. If his sizing is bluffy, call. Simple as that.

Seems so silly to fold mid set +preety good FD but yeahh,8% VPIP villain has prolly AA here or AKTxxhh.

Because i feel horrible folding such a monster(in absolute hand strength at least) i call to see a turn.,but his range is so crushing me so sometimes yeahh,we make a street worth of money on hearts but sometimes we expect top set while he has Gutter+Nut FD,so there are reverse implieds all over this spot.


If you had bigger sample,say hes a super nit over 1k hands and never checkraises without nuts or close to it then this is prolly as good a spot as ever to make a hero fold.

Since this is Btn vs BB and even nits might play looser i see the turn but raising his flop chekraise is burning money

181$ doesnt look like 400bb

If AJ and 88 are in his range you should just shove and pray.

63 hands is not a huge sample, and agree that it is tight even for being card dead but still take it with a pinch of salt.

Are we saying hands like wraps with flush draws and bottom set hands like Th9h88 cannot be in his flop raising range? Either way I agree with the majority that bet/call the flop is fine and try and get to showdown town.

Not sure if flatting the x'r is best vs that small x'r
3bet/fold might be the highest EV line