Bumping ? cool.

3betting is the nuts. What more can you say ?

This is a lot to process so I am trying to put it together in my mind.

So hands that you might not want to 3 bet would be hands like.

A567ss
4567
4456
A556ss

These hands can flop powerful draws and nut draws so you want other players in the hand so that you can dominate their draws, 3betting these hands isn't better than calling.

Broadway type hands and big pairs are good 3 betting hands like these:

Akjt
Kqjj
Qqjj

These are the types of hands you want to 3bet because they often flop some sort of equity and play better heads up due to lack of nuttiness.

Also, I have found that 3betting rarely results in putting 33% of your stack in. Wouk it be better to play your aaas hands in either a single raise or 4bet+ pot to use the nut flush draw in multiway pots and the raw aa equity for shoving flops in 4bet+ pots and avoid 3 bet pots all together? To do that you would single raise/4b or call an original raise/4b.

I am fairly newer to PLO but is what I'm thinking correct with what is said in the thread?

Aaxx *

I don't get this.

Example.

Effective stacks: 100 BB

I have 7653s on the Button.

I raise 3.5BB, get raised by SB to 11,5, I call.

Flop comes all high cards.

SB bet 17 BB into 24 BB pot.

I have 88,5 BB behind. What is bad about folding here?

Obv he doesnt mean never do it. He just means be prepared to call / raise cbets and stack off lighter when you are calling 3bets pre. You cant call 3bets profitably if you are going to only continue with the hand when you hit dreamy flops.

Also missed this thread first time around so nice bump.

Excellent work OP

fantastic post op, pretty much sums up all the research ive been doing into this and condenses it into a well structured concise article.

Excellent post bro, just learnt a few ways in which to max. out value etc in PLO. I've had okay success with PLO, but this has just, literally, helped me out. Sometimes it felt like i knew this, but did the opposite :/. Thanks a bunch!

I'm pretty sure it basically says "never fold the flop in a 3Bet pot".

So does this mean I have to float a lot? My style in these spots is pretty much raise or fold, raising pretty much pair + fd and better.

tksssssss so much

I disagree with the concept of 3 betting to get a hand HU, 3bet smaller trying to make medium sized multiway pots that alot of people can't emotionally get away from is the key to making people make bad turn and river decisions

What about all the times where they fold OTF to your shove where they are dominated by rag AA and just pick it up?
I would say overall it's still plus EV to shove HU with SPR<1 because they will completely miss the majority of flops

Another useful thread for preflop 3b theory. Bizzzzzzzzump!