BTN: $100 (100 bb)
SB: $231.26 (231.3 bb)
BB: $98.50 (98.5 bb)
UTG: $143.82 (143.8 bb)
MP: $427.35 (427.4 bb)
Hero (CO): $121.31 (121.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K Q 9 Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, BB raises to $9.50, Hero calls $6.50

Flop: ($19.50) 5 4 T (2 players)
BB bets $13,



Opponent 3bets 7% from bb, how should we play different turns here? half pot 3,6,7,8(T?) when checked? Call turn 2/3 pot on J,K,9?

Also same spot OOP fold flop too tight?

Opponent is very aggressive 3bets bb vs btn 15%+
Any1 floating here?

Your plan for hand #1 seems reasonable at first glance. There's obviously an endless number of turn scenarios but in general applying pressure on bad cards for villain's range and continuing against barrels when we pick up equity is the basic gameplan when you call the flop. It's not the best spot in the world against a 7% 3bettor, especially given that people usually 3bet tighter when OOP. Against a 6% 3betting range you only have 37% equity on the flop if he cbets his entire range. If he's checking the weakest 8% of hands in his flop range (meaning he's cbetting 92%) - your equity is down to 34%. If we are OOP, check/folding is the way to go.

Hand #2 I don't really like floating here with just a gutter. Even if he's 3betting 15%, this board still smacks his range and you can expect a ton of barrels on any non-club turn. You have terrible equity against his range and it's not a spot where you get to steal the pot away very often on the turn. Just fold and don't overthink it imo.

If uu folded twice here you wp

In hand one you have ~27% equity against range (assuming he's cbetting 100% of the time, which on a board like this is fairly reasonable). You need slightly above 28% to make the call, so its a close spot.
It is largely dependant on whether you will be able to realize your equity and/or bluff on future streets.
Overall I think floating with this hand is fine/standard.

Hand 2 is a clear fold.

I think 27% equity is definitely pessimistic. I'm assuming you used the PPT 7% range and I think that in this specific case it could be rather misleading. The PPT 7% range includes hands like AA72r and KK94ss which are hands that people rarely 3bet in a BB vs CO scenario. Hands like those have around 85% against our hand. On the other hand, hands like QJ98ds and 7766ds are excluded from that range and those are hands that people 3bet very frequency (and we have great equity against).

In some cases the PPT ranges are a good enough approximation. In this specific case I think they are quite misleading.

good post, Ph33roX, i agree with you completely

Interesting...

I reckon that my 3b tendency OOP HU is more closely following PPT rankings though... I will admit though that I 3b 6677ds more often - relative to its PPT ranking. But It's still not a 3b as often as AA72r or KK94ss and I don't believe that it should be.

i need someone to post a poker juice comparison to PPT so I can see hwo big the equity differences are. (I don't want to pay money for poker software)

Oh, and the hands...

hand1) you have two options - call and raise/give up turn or just fold here. I don't know which is best without knowing villain. With some dynamics you can just pot him right there.

hand 2) also fine to fold imo