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2PLO x/r semi bluff low paired flop BvB 3b pot 2PLO x/r semi bluff low paired flop BvB 3b pot

01-06-2016 , 08:11 PM
BTN: $2.00
Hero (SB): $3.67
BB: $3.82
UTG: $3.11
MP: $4.92
CO: $2.07

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with 6 7 5 A
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.06, BB raises to $0.18, Hero calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.36) 4 8 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.26, Hero raises to $1.13

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I decided to x/r this flop because villain very rarely hits this board and I figured that the general weak/tight population tendencies would warrant a fold often enough from hands like overpairs, low flushdraws and total air that he decided to cbet to make for a profitable semibluff.

If villain calls my plan was to shove on any spade, straight outs, any pair or our backdoor flush/straight draws. Should I just be shoving any turn as played?

In general is a x/r semibluff a better line to take for medium SPR pots like this one (SPR=10), comapred to say pots with SPR 3-5?
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01-07-2016 , 06:50 AM
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In general is a x/r semibluff a better line to take for medium SPR pots like this one (SPR=10), comapred to say pots with SPR 3-5?
I don't think you should do much x/r semi bluffing in general, since hands your opponent has bet have a selection bias for strength (talking in general here). It's better to bluff by betting than by check raising and you should only bluff rarely when both you and your opponent are weak (and you are of course weaker).
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01-07-2016 , 08:06 AM
Fold to 3b pre. 3betting value hands have us dominated and it's even hard to play vs rundown hands. As played I would just call because it sucks to get reraised and not realize our equity.
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01-07-2016 , 09:04 AM
Should we really fold? We have 40%, 43% and 42% vs a 5%, 10% and 15% three betting range respectively and are getting 2:1.
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01-07-2016 , 09:53 AM
yeah folding is bad
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01-07-2016 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by OmahaFanatical4
I don't think you should do much x/r semi bluffing in general, since hands your opponent has bet have a selection bias for strength (talking in general here). It's better to bluff by betting than by check raising and you should only bluff rarely when both you and your opponent are weak (and you are of course weaker).
Maybe the next spot im going to describe isnt much of a semi bluffing spot, but more of a general flop play but I would still like to know how you would continue here.

100bb stacks 6max zoom 2PLO

CO: unknown

Folds to CO who pots it, only BB (hero) calls

Flop: Q 7 4
CO: Bets 65% pot, bb: ?

Do you have a x/r range on a dry flop like this?

I try to x/r these flops somewhat often as most of the players at 2PLO played NLHE before and just cbet any dry flop like this one so I don't think their range isnt really biased towards value in this spot

A: Hero (bb) has: QJxx: (hh,ss,cc)
B: " " : 77xx (no bdfd)
C: " " : 568x: (hh,ss,cc)
D: " " : Q7xx (no bdfd)
E: " " : 74xx (no bdfd)
F: " " : 7xxx: (hh,ss,cc)

What is your flop strategy for these hands? I think I would x/c all A-E ~60-70% of the time while x/r the other 30-40%. For hand F I think I would x/f 80% of the time but I think we can also x/r this hand profitably around 20% of the time given the cbetting frequency of the general player pool on this flop and because we block some of his 2p type of hands.

Again, I dont think I'm really describing semi bluff x/r situations like the ones youre talking about but I keep hearing from good plo players that an aggresive flop strategy is very important, so I think its important to discuss spots like these.
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01-07-2016 , 02:32 PM
Don't like raise on flop, don't think there is enough fold equity and our hand is very marginal, if we had another spade then yes. Call flop give up on turn.
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01-08-2016 , 10:51 AM
CHeck raise is ok - sizing is too big. No reason to check raise that large here.
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01-08-2016 , 10:52 AM
I also wouldnt plan to shove any turn. If you check raise smaller you could bet like 1/5 pot on turn spades. Could do that anyway with this SPR. Id shove my straight cards, and probably check fold everything else. He doesnt call a cr this size with red AA to fold on an off suit T. Id shove an Ace too
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01-08-2016 , 03:08 PM
Looks ok. Would be nice to know his cb% in 3b pots. The higher the better your play obv
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01-08-2016 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by horseofhell
BTN: $2.00
Hero (SB): $3.67
BB: $3.82
UTG: $3.11
MP: $4.92
CO: $2.07

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with 6 7 5 A
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.06, BB raises to $0.18, Hero calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.36) 4 8 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.26, Hero raises to $1.13

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I decided to x/r this flop because villain very rarely hits this board and I figured that the general weak/tight population tendencies would warrant a fold often enough from hands like overpairs, low flushdraws and total air that he decided to cbet to make for a profitable semibluff.

If villain calls my plan was to shove on any spade, straight outs, any pair or our backdoor flush/straight draws. Should I just be shoving any turn as played?

In general is a x/r semibluff a better line to take for medium SPR pots like this one (SPR=10), comapred to say pots with SPR 3-5?
doesnt matter
we cant c/r as a semibluff making him fold AAx.
Its plo2 people are in general spastic overvalueing AAx if he has AAx +any fd he thinks he has the nuts

id just call flop
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