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09-28-2016 , 07:07 PM

Chen Heiner

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 167

UTG 36/0, 8 hands
SB 38/31, 10 hands

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $33.06 (132.2 bb)
Hero (BB): $48.97 (195.9 bb)
UTG: $26.44 (105.8 bb)
MP: $54.97 (219.9 bb)
CO: $59.73 (238.9 bb)
BTN: $8.65 (34.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5

UTG calls $0.25, 3 folds, SB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.75, UTG calls $0.75

Flop: ($3) 4

(3 players)
SB bets $1.80, Hero calls $1.80, UTG folds

Turn: ($6.60) 3

(2 players)
SB bets $3.60, Hero calls $3.60

River: ($13.80) T

(2 players)
SB bets $9.90, Hero ?

How often do you call down with your Q high flushes here? I think in theory I should probably be calling a lot since it's pretty close to the top of my range but I expect the avg PL25 player to significantly underbluff here. Yes, especially if this guy turns out to be on the reggy side, he's probably capable of going for the naked ace bluff reasonably often but the fact that he iso'd a limper from SB also shifts his range towards suited Ax a little bit more. I'd expect him to bet bigger on the flop & turn with the nuts though. Thoughts?

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09-28-2016 , 07:35 PM

AVO

centurion

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 153

You wrote everything quite nicely. His somewhat smallish bets can be made with set+nut FD hands. Also, a reg should understand that when he's called in a multiway, there's much more FDs in your range as well (and he should understand that they might be quite big, since you called having a weaker player behind you), it's kinda stupid to bluff with a polarized range for him here. I'd fold without any other info on him here.

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09-28-2016 , 11:56 PM

WiWaise

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 127

I highly doubt he's trying to bluff you here since you almost always have a flush here and his flop sizing smells like something like AA with NFD trying to keep a hand like yours in + I guess there are not that many dry aces of spades in his sb raising range + the fish is in the hand/multiway pot oop which stenghtens his cbetting range here quite a bit.

I'm probably folding pre even though the fish is in the hand (bad relative position + a super bad hand which will get us into trouble spots like this quite often) I just can't imagine many flops on which you want to get much money in.

As played you can't fold flop nor turn. But river should be a fold.

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09-29-2016 , 10:55 AM

SolarAU

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 1,795

Unless villain is a complete spastic on a suicide bluff with the nut blocker this is a fold. Your range is too strong for any potential blocker hands to have a +EV barrel.

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09-29-2016 , 11:42 AM

NMcNasty

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,990

I call. I agree that people underbluff here but they also overuse the bet/bet/bet line OOP. I'm not folding if I can't trust villain to go into check/decide mode with lesser value holdings.

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09-29-2016 , 03:07 PM

Grethe

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,310

Fold. 3-way to the flop, close to zero bluffs left on the river

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10-01-2016 , 08:33 AM

Chen Heiner

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 167

I tried to play around in PPT a little and think it's actually quite close. I gave him $FI25 and any Ass as well as all As with any 5, 3 or two broadways cards that didn't at least make K2 just to roughly get reasonable frequencies. Vs this range I have 34% on the river, so a pretty easy call.
I mean, I could be convinced that people still underbluff here but it's also quite common and easy to follow through with the nut blocker.

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