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Old 04-20-2017, 02:36 PM   #26
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Re: 25PLO KKds in BB

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That dude has rubbed a few people on the 2p2 forums the wrong way. I went on a profanity-laced tirade last week because of it.
But that dude is really good at poker. Think of him as the Gordon Ramsey of PLO.
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Old 04-20-2017, 04:01 PM   #27
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still donating to bosses like Renan and ArgentinGOD. You sounded way more aggressive in your posts than the past.
Renan is clearly my nemesis. I just snapfold AAds if i see him at the tables.
I tried to create an aggro troll image maybe i just give it up
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Old 04-20-2017, 04:32 PM   #28
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Had a brutal session last night including losing two stacks in 4bet pots with KKxx vs AAxx fml.

At least I'm pumping money into the PLO community while I'm still learning!

At lower stakes PLO online, most 4bettors range is going to be AAxx a massive amount of the time. You should fold most of your KKxx to those 4bets but some of them are slightly +ev calls pre-flop, assuming you aren't making mistakes post flop. You will often find yourself in two spots putting in money under 40% equity which is not a recipe for success in the great game



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That dude has rubbed a few people on the 2p2 forums the wrong way. I went on a profanity-laced tirade last week because of it.

Onto the hand. Preflop is really good. Papi just came out with a video this week where he mentions never folding the BB. With your hand a 3bet is great here. On the flop you're probably beat. Fold and wait for a better opportunity.


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Fold is a sad face and fold against the range that pots here with a 500bb stack still to act
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Old 04-20-2017, 06:24 PM   #29
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This hand isn't a fold vs AA but it's very close


I have not folded this type of hand to a 4bet in my entire life and have no plans to do it anytime soon
Papi what are the odds at least one of our flushes is dominated when villain has single suited aces? Just curious.
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Old 04-20-2017, 10:02 PM   #30
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Papi what are the odds at least one of our flushes is dominated when villain has single suited aces? Just curious.
Hey pro! Let me introduce to you the pro poker tools odds oracle! I suppose its totally new for you so before you start dig into first you have to buy PT4 or HM2. Honestly its not a shame playing without HUD because you should be some kind of feel player like gus or isi. So first just put vpip and pfr. Use them for a week. Then i can help you to put the 3bet in if you get stuck. Hope it helped
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:26 AM   #31
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Re: 25PLO KKds in BB

This thread blows my mind
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Old 04-21-2017, 01:45 PM   #32
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Re: 25PLO KKds in BB

If one of these villains pot 4bets a range of AA, then you are losing about 8bb by calling and stacking off whenever you have the required 25%.
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Old 04-21-2017, 03:38 PM   #33
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This thread blows my mind


I feel like I'm dumber for having participated in it.


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Old 04-21-2017, 03:41 PM   #34
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Hey pro! Let me introduce to you the pro poker tools odds oracle! I suppose its totally new for you so before you start dig into first you have to buy PT4 or HM2. Honestly its not a shame playing without HUD because you should be some kind of feel player like gus or isi. So first just put vpip and pfr. Use them for a week. Then i can help you to put the 3bet in if you get stuck. Hope it helped
Lol
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Old 04-21-2017, 03:47 PM   #35
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Hey pro! Let me introduce to you the pro poker tools odds oracle! I suppose its totally new for you so before you start dig into first you have to buy PT4 or HM2. Honestly its not a shame playing without HUD because you should be some kind of feel player like gus or isi. So first just put vpip and pfr. Use them for a week. Then i can help you to put the 3bet in if you get stuck. Hope it helped
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Lol
Although he said it in a very GTnO way, he is also very accurate
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:31 PM   #36
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Although he said it in a very GTnO way, he is also very accurate
Lol thanks PA-PIIIII
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:48 PM   #37
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Re: 25PLO KKds in BB

Did I do it right?

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Old 04-22-2017, 12:20 AM   #38
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Re: 25PLO KKds in BB

Almost -- it should be (Ahh, Add), because AA can have lower flushes with the sidecards too.
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Old 04-22-2017, 12:55 AM   #39
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Almost -- it should be (Ahh, Add), because AA can have lower flushes with the sidecards too.
Thank you!

That's the percentage he dominates at least one of our flushes draws right? What if I wanted to do both of them?
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Old 04-22-2017, 01:08 AM   #40
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Re: 25PLO KKds in BB

You're welcome.

That's right, and dominating both flush draws would be Ahh:Add.
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Old 04-22-2017, 01:11 AM   #41
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Thanks again. So : is and and , is or, in general?
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Old 04-22-2017, 01:15 AM   #42
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Yep. And ! is the exclusion sign, for example hh!Ah is hands with (at least) two hearts but no Ah. Those three are the most important symbols, but the rest are documented here.
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Old 04-22-2017, 01:39 AM   #43
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Many thanks.
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Old 04-22-2017, 04:44 AM   #44
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Doordonot , nice keep it going sir! You suprised me. If you do one "research" per day you are doing more than 99% of the regs on your limit.
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