25PLO: Is this a close "call" pf? - Small Stakes Pot Limit Omaha

Two Plus Two Forums Poker Strategy Omaha

25PLO: Is this a close "call" pf?

Post Reply Subscribe

...

09-12-2015 , 10:21 PM

tokeweed

veteran

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,966

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37112278

MP: $113.98 (455.9 bb)
CO: $20 (80 bb)
Hero (BTN): $25 (100 bb)
SB: $25 (100 bb)
BB: $60.29 (241.2 bb)
UTG: $12.60 (50.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J

UTG calls $0.25, MP raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, Hero raises to $3.60, SB calls $3.50, 3 folds, CO calls $2.85

Flop: ($12.05) 7

(3 players)
SB bets $11.54, Hero ???

I thought it was close but leaning towards a call with the pot that big. Dunno... But I was wondering what you guys think.

Quote

09-13-2015 , 04:15 AM

dinomack

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 202

bad hand to 3b pre

against T9, we had about 49% equity.

t9, 9: (8,7,6):add,(88,77,66):dd
~48%

with that much dead money in the pot,we only need about 39% equity to gii

Quote

09-13-2015 , 08:14 AM

Grethe

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,310

Pre is spewy. Flop is a std gii

Quote

09-13-2015 , 09:10 AM

Rei Ayanami

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 11,685

fold >>> call > 3-bet pre

jam = call >>>>>> fold post

Quote

09-13-2015 , 10:40 AM

F_Ivanovic

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,658

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rei Ayanami

fold >>> call > 3-bet pre

jam = call >>>>>> fold post

Surely jam is better than call OTF? We have a hand with great equity now and even though SPR OTT will be low, our visibility on many turns can be poor.

Plus with jamming we have more of a chance to isolate to HU where our equity is likely to be better (eg. CO might be folding K high FD with little else to go with it)

Quote

09-13-2015 , 10:48 AM

Rei Ayanami

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 11,685

I don't think there's a turn card where we're folding to any action and where the SB is doing anything other than jamming his $9.xx stack into the $35.xx (or larger) pot with his entire range, and CO's play should be basically the same regardless of whether he has to call $11.85 or call $17.15 -- so EVs should be for all practical purposes pretty much the same.

Jamming is always going to be slightly better -- and it makes more practical sense to save a mouseclick and get rid of the slight misclick chance -- which is why I listed it first, but I think the differences will be too small for it to warrant even a >.

Quote

09-13-2015 , 11:52 AM

plottingerrr

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 124

ProPokerTools Odds Oracle Results (2.28 Professional)
Omaha Hi, Generic syntax
Board - 8s7d6d
PLAYER_1 Js7s8d3d
PLAYER_2 (88,77,66),((87,86,76)!(88,77,66)),[Qd+]d,T9,((95,54)!(T9)),(AA!RRR),9TJQ ,9TQK
600000 trials (randomized)

All-in Equity

	Equity %	Wins Hi %	Ties Hi %	Wins Hi Count	Ties Hi Count
Js7s8d3d	56,2252%	55,0310%	2,3883%	330186	14330
(88,77,66),((87,86,7...	43,7748%	42,5807%	2,3883%	255484	14330

Quote

09-13-2015 , 12:00 PM

Oink

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,308

As long as you dont fold the flop. I always jam, but I dont think it matters much if we call flop and gii on pretty much every turn, or just jam flop now.

The squeeze preflop is ******ed

Quote

09-13-2015 , 01:34 PM

Mt.FishNoob

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 12,241

+1 .... preflopp bad, shove flop

I don't mind 3bing <pot if CO had folded and MP is a nit.

Quote

Post Reply Subscribe

...