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Old 12-08-2011, 07:21 PM   #1
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25plo | 3bet pot spot

Villain is very active and aggro. VPIP and PFR in the 40's and a very tiny gap between. He is 3betting somewhere between 25 and 30% and especially high vs steals.
His range is obv wide and he cbetting ~70% in 3bet pots. This is an easy shove right? If villain is loose enough that we give ourself FE we shove and if villain is a nit who's never folding we just call. Thoughts?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25, $0.05 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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UTG: $80.02 (320.1 bb)
MP: $60.56 (242.2 bb)
CO: $16.65 (66.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): $64.12 (256.5 bb)
SB: $26.89 (107.6 bb)
BB: $25 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 4 8 K 6
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB folds, BB raises to $2.65, Hero calls $1.90

Flop: ($5.70) 4 7 T (2 players)
BB bets $3.75, Hero raises to $16.67
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Old 12-08-2011, 07:48 PM   #2
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Re: 25plo | 3bet pot spot

With this SPR, I think I'd rather call. I wouldn't blame a shove though
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Old 12-08-2011, 07:54 PM   #3
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Re: 25plo | 3bet pot spot

raise is good, it doesn't need to be a shove though

betting a bit less gives your next barrel a little more muscle if he just calls
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Old 12-09-2011, 03:30 AM   #4
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Re: 25plo | 3bet pot spot

monki, if I raise to let's say 12 I have $10.50 left. If he just call I can shove $10.50 into $29 on the turn. I don't think there's any FE with that bet. I'd def raise smaller if we were deep however he bought in for only 100bb.
I don't really understand why we would just call vs someone who has a superwide 3betting and cbetting range since we should have quite a bit of FE on the flop.
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Old 12-09-2011, 03:56 AM   #5
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Re: 25plo | 3bet pot spot

I just pot the flop. Stacks make smaller raises kind of awkward.
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Old 12-09-2011, 06:17 PM   #6
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Re: 25plo | 3bet pot spot

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monki, if I raise to let's say 12 I have $10.50 left. If he just call I can shove $10.50 into $29 on the turn. I don't think there's any FE with that bet. I'd def raise smaller if we were deep however he bought in for only 100bb.
I don't really understand why we would just call vs someone who has a superwide 3betting and cbetting range since we should have quite a bit of FE on the flop.
yes but if you check the turn you also may have more F/E on the river, including the ability to rep hands like boats that you might not be able to if all your chips are in all ready

its worth thinking about, even if your particular hand benefits from maximum fold equity on flop not potting does a lot for the rest of your range, especially against a cbet of that size
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Old 12-09-2011, 06:36 PM   #7
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Re: 25plo | 3bet pot spot

fold preflop, might also fold this OTB, its uber trash... and a loose guy is in the blinds. Very marginal play if you ask me.

as played fold flop,
cant even beat his weird tp+semibluff hands. guy might even shove with TP+gs, pretty unpredictable villain.

i wait for better spots against this guy.
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Old 12-09-2011, 08:49 PM   #8
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Re: 25plo | 3bet pot spot

Fold pre.
As played pop it.
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Old 12-10-2011, 04:15 AM   #9
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Re: 25plo | 3bet pot spot

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fold preflop, might also fold this OTB, its uber trash... and a loose guy is in the blinds. Very marginal play if you ask me.

as played fold flop,
cant even beat his weird tp+semibluff hands. guy might even shove with TP+gs, pretty unpredictable villain.

i wait for better spots against this guy.
WAT?
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:49 AM   #10
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Re: 25plo | 3bet pot spot

double gutter, one to the non nuts. raising makes this laggro spazz-shove with OP/tp+draws.
If a 9 turns and he pots turn and river, you still call ?

is this a standard shove spot ? i like a nitty fold, but thats me, maybe calling/gambling is okay.
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