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09-19-2014 , 01:43 PM

ndahlhoff10

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Hero (UTG): $25 (100 bb)
MP: $37.39 (149.6 bb)
CO: $24.15 (96.6 bb)
BTN: $10.33 (41.3 bb)
SB: $9.85 (39.4 bb)
BB: $20.89 (83.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6

Hero raises to $0.85, MP calls $0.85, CO raises to $3.75, BTN calls $3.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.90, MP folds

Flop: ($12.45) A

(3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $9.75, BTN folds, Hero ($21)

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Vil is 82/41, 13% 3b, 32% agg, 58% cb. Big sample but not many other reads. It's unlikely he sizes like this folds. I wouldn't be too surprised to see a T987 type hand though. That's probably a small part of his range though compared to Axxx hands though.

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09-19-2014 , 01:52 PM

Rei Ayanami

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Originally Posted by ndahlhoff10

You can jam "only" if he'll do some combination of folding >0%*, b/c-ing wider than 9x (like 3x or, lol, bare KK-TT), and playing AA/A9 differently (perhaps with a smaller bet size).

*Required FE is somewhere around 4-12% depending on how wide he's 3-betting.

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Originally Posted by ndahlhoff10

... I wouldn't be too surprised to see a T987 type hand though ...

I'm not sure what % of 9x "wouldn't be too surprised" maps to, but it has to be very high!

Last edited by Rei Ayanami; 09-19-2014 at 02:15 PM.

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09-19-2014 , 03:14 PM

hackprotech

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i would fold. I assume that a) he is never folding to a jam here and b) his range is mostly Ax hands with higer sidecards than yours which you arent doing good against and then sometimes youre dead vs. AA and sometimes he has the rundown with 9x that you are doing well against. I think not folding here leads to sadness.

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09-19-2014 , 03:33 PM

crashwhips

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Don't think it's that close of a decision w/ spr + his 3b stats

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09-19-2014 , 04:13 PM

ndahlhoff10

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Well I do tend to trust the rasta man.

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09-19-2014 , 04:30 PM

Rei Ayanami

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Any reasonable sim will disagree pretty strongly with it "not being close"; it'll be either a close jam or a close fold. More likely the former. Unless of course OP was wrong about lacking FE.

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09-19-2014 , 06:44 PM

crashwhips

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Well, I think your missing that 3way + btn starting hand w 40bb + fact it's an incredibly dry A high board + everyone at low stakes seems to put you on AA when you 3b (+ even we who know how wide he 3b are considering folding top pair decent + live kickers w/ a couple bd draws), it's a good cbet by him w/ pretty much every hand he 3b esp if it has bd eq (ie 8TJQ w/ a bdfd)

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09-19-2014 , 06:44 PM

crashwhips

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also i think if you think you have fold eq, might be better to just call, he's not really folding any hands except those we have pretty crsuhed

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09-19-2014 , 10:23 PM

Rei Ayanami

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Originally Posted by crashwhips

... it's a good cbet by him w/ pretty much every hand he 3b esp if it has bd eq (ie 8TJQ w/ a bdfd)

The OP suggested that villain is neither c-betting nearly all of his range nor b/f-ing any real amount. If those assumptions are wrong, I agree that the decision isn't close.

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09-21-2014 , 11:37 AM

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Kingandtheduck

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i mean your calling any turn thou? so does it matter when we gii?

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09-21-2014 , 01:17 PM

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crashwhips

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Yeah calling is not to save us $ or to fold at any pt in the hand, it's to make more $ when we have him crushed if he was planning to b/f w/ for example hands like KKxx, QQxx, 69TJds, or a pure air hand. But I don't think he's b/f that much w/ his sizing, we only have 1p, and it's hard to put us anything but an A when we call + worst of all we're oop so gii is prob most viable option.

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09-21-2014 , 01:58 PM

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F_Ivanovic

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Thought you had A9 then and couldn't understand people thinking about folding. I think it might be a close fold. Most ppl will c-bet smaller with AA on this board though but we can't be sure of that. Also though it's unlikely he's bluffing esp this sizing with BTN being a short stack.

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09-23-2014 , 03:30 AM

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n0rd

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why not (fistbump) 4bet pre?

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