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Old 06-06-2012, 08:14 PM   #1
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200plo:akward spot

CO is decent reg ... 30k/150k hands on ptr .... 31/23/2.9 over 1.6k hands. raise db% 26 over 19 times.
hes ok i guess. occasionally overplay hands
He SNAP potted this btw

SB is atrocious playing at 74/26 db 29% over very small sample ...50 hands
(I know im not meant to out screenames but his is vip_team30.. Theres looads of this sn on ongame with different numbers in the end that are absolutely horrific)

anw.. what do we do here?


Ongame Network $200.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players - View hand 1790047
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CO: $547.26
Hero (BTN): $303.00
SB: $359.80
BB: $409.30
UTG: $206.70

Pre Flop: ($4.00) Hero is BTN with 9 T J T
1 fold, CO raises to $8, Hero calls $8, SB calls $6, 1 fold

Flop: ($26.00) 9 2 8 (3 players)
SB bets $20.00, CO raises to $86,


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Old 06-06-2012, 08:22 PM   #2
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Re: 200plo:akward spot

Dont wanna clog with too many threads.
This is vs fishy SB from ^^

What do we do on the river?

Can we vbet this?


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BTN: $547.26
Hero (SB): $198.00
BB: $467.80
UTG: $409.30
CO: $206.70

Pre Flop: ($4.00) Hero is SB with J 9 4 Q
3 folds, Hero raises to $6, BB calls $4

Flop: ($12.00) T 8 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $8.00, BB calls $8

Turn: ($28.00) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $22.00, Hero raises to $94, BB calls $72

River: ($216.00) 9 (2 players)
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Old 06-06-2012, 08:51 PM   #3
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Re: 200plo:akward spot

co's potting makes me think hes going for max value v a fish like sb, just fold
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:08 PM   #4
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Re: 200plo:akward spot

1, seems like an easy fold
2, with a lil under 1/2 psb left I think you should jam and expect to get called by worse straights enough. Not sure I'm a fan of the turn line
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:08 PM   #5
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Re: 200plo:akward spot

dunno why youre c/r in hand 2 if you know what spot its gonna leave you in otr.
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:18 PM   #6
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Re: 200plo:akward spot

think hand 1 is a lot closer than it looks, should run the numbers

hand 2 i don't like the turn c/r, i'd just bet. as played just shove
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Old 06-07-2012, 04:33 AM   #7
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Re: 200plo:akward spot

anybody else on hand 1?

for hand 2: i cr because (even a small sample) he was quite floaty and was betting a lot of turns. with the redraws and the stone cold nuts i can get it in as a massive favorite ive he has 9T type of hands.
however if i just bet hes not gonna raise 9T here, hes just gonna flat

that was my reasoning behind cr turn
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Old 06-07-2012, 09:29 AM   #8
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Re: 200plo:akward spot

Hand 1: 100bb I think it is a ship.

Hand 2: I like the reason behind the c/r. I hope you potted it. Now just shove.
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:22 AM   #9
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Re: 200plo:akward spot

in hand 1 how bad is peeling the raise?
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Old 06-08-2012, 07:17 AM   #10
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in hand 1 how bad is peeling the raise?
imo its terrible given our draw is the most obvious . and if turn comes blank, we need get in... thats fish style.

i think hand 1 has to be a fold... one pair + oesd... we need be very lucky to be against AJT9/KJT9, but we are often against 2pair + gutter at least, and maybe our T probably is dead.

hand 2, turn c/r is better than bet. idk why roy said just bet vs this crazy fish. on river i want c/c or shove. not sure...
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Old 06-08-2012, 12:04 PM   #11
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Re: 200plo:akward spot

Hand1) Im not sure, its gotta be really close.
Hand2) I dont really like the turn c/r. We cant end the hand with the c/r, whereas if we bet/3b we can. And when we c/r our hand is face up letting him play close to perfect on ever river.
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Old 06-08-2012, 02:29 PM   #12
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Re: 200plo:akward spot

1st: It's a fold, but I would shove anyways. Can't be a huge mistake and gambling is fun.

2nd: Turn c/r is so superior compared to leading, that I can't find any words. Shoving otr, because of SPR.
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Old 06-08-2012, 05:40 PM   #13
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Re: 200plo:akward spot

Hand 1: I ship w/o thinking (twice). Would love to run math if someone can come up with a range for the fish, lolz

Hand 2: most of his range is lesser str8s, can't be too bad to shove for less than half-pot
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Old 06-08-2012, 05:42 PM   #14
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1st: It's a fold, but I would shove anyways. Can't be a huge mistake and gambling is fun.

2nd: Turn c/r is so superior compared to leading, that I can't find any words. Shoving otr, because of SPR.
Exactly my thoughts
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Old 06-09-2012, 11:10 AM   #15
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1st: It's a fold, but I would shove anyways. Can't be a huge mistake and gambling is fun.

2nd: Turn c/r is so superior compared to leading, that I can't find any words. Shoving otr, because of SPR.
I think i fell asleep debating which line i like better, i am now undecided. What is your argument for c/r?

To me along with the reasons i listed above, if we c/r he can check back his equity alot. And do we ever not have absolute nuts or like TTdd when we c/r?
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