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Old 06-22-2012, 05:08 PM   #1
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10PLO: A few big pot flop spots, I think I have to b/c all.

4 in total, they're all quick spots but just posting cause I'm in the midst of my 1st big downswong!

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Villain is 35/23 raising 35% from lp.

    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    Hero (SB): $10.56 (105.6 bb)
    BB: $10.60 (106 bb)
    MP: $16.62 (166.2 bb)
    CO: $9.20 (92 bb)
    BTN: $4.39 (43.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with J 9 T Q
    MP calls $0.10, CO raises to $0.40, BTN calls $0.40, Hero raises to $1.80, 2 folds, CO calls $1.40, BTN folds

    Flop: ($4.20) K 6 8 (2 players)
    Hero bets $2.75, CO raises to $7.40 and is all-in

    He's not a nit post so I'd say this is his jamming range otf.
    Aaaaand he's folding a bunch also.

    ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
    600,000 trials (Randomized)
    board: K68
    Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
    9dThJsQd28.43% 166,6237,871
    K6, K8, KK, K79, AKT, 79T71.57% 425,5067,871





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    Villain here is 76/19 over 242.
    I have ~30% vs 79 & he's folding a bunch too so gogogo?

      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      MP: $22.35 (223.5 bb)
      CO: $8.43 (84.3 bb)
      BTN: $8.15 (81.5 bb)
      SB: $13.03 (130.3 bb)
      BB: $16.80 (168 bb)
      Hero (UTG): $10.02 (100.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with A Q 9 J
      Hero raises to $0.35, MP calls $0.35, 4 folds

      Flop: ($0.85) 8 T 5 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.81, MP calls $0.81

      Turn: ($2.47) 6 (2 players)
      Hero bets $2, MP raises to $8.36




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      The l/c guy is 61/28 over 800 hands. The raiser is 44/17 over 220 hands.
      Overall in this spot I'd say I get a lot of folds, some combination of them calling & me getting in ott vs Jx/draws & one of em raising with a good hand. We're obv not concerned with the smaller stack. I don't think there's a size where I can b/f. Even at the size small (bad) size I made it I'll be getting ~30% on a call if he jams & I'm 29% vs a tight enough range.
      He could be wider given his stats. Ppt after the hand.

        Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        SB: $10 (100 bb)
        Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)
        UTG: $13.67 (136.7 bb)
        MP: $16.48 (164.8 bb)
        CO: $8.27 (82.7 bb)
        BTN: $16.07 (160.7 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BB with T K Q K
        UTG folds, MP calls $0.10, CO raises to $0.45, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, MP calls $1.40, CO calls $1.05

        Flop: ($4.55) 3 6 J (3 players)
        Hero bets $2.50, MP raises to $5.10




        ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
        600,000 trials (Randomized)
        board: 3J6
        Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
        ThKhKsQh28.79% 172,434636
        J6, J3, J789, 66, JJ, J34571.21% 426,930636


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        Again both villains are fish. SB is 83/40 & the CO is 55/26. I'm <20% vs 3x but they'll rarely show up with it. I guess I could b/f vs the bigger stack & b/vs the smaller one for ~$3? Thoughts? Overall though betting lets me take down the pot with ease a tonne & creates good spots for me to b/b vs a lower Jx.

        PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

        BB ($10)
        UTG ($10)
        MP ($10.17)
        CO ($17.83)
        Hero (Button) ($10.15)
        SB ($8.67)

        Preflop: Hero is Button with K, Q, 9, J
        1 fold, MP bets $0.25, CO raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.60, SB calls $1.55, 2 folds, CO calls $1.20

        Flop: ($5.15) 3, J, 3 (3 players)
        SB checks, CO checks, Hero b/c or b/f & how much?


        Apologies for the volume of hands but I thought they were all similar/quick enough to stick in the one thread! Thanks!

        Last edited by Envoy222; 06-22-2012 at 05:15 PM.
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        Old 06-23-2012, 07:58 AM   #2
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        Re: 10PLO: A few big pot flop spots, I think I have to b/c all.

        Wth, they're never quick for those who read your explanations, so pls pls pls post'em separately!

        #1: wp (what an impressive bunch of backdoors btw), tilts him very much and/or makes your image fishy as a by-product.

        #2: b/c flop smaller like $0.5-0.6, c/c turn, shove river if hit: he's not folding a ton being 76/19, 97 take two of your outs (thus you have 11) so I believe PPT that gives 24.5% more than you.

        #3: that's a funny choice of his range - you include J543 but exclude much more probable 33, you also exclude bare 54 that may spazz dependent on your image (his PFR is 28%), I'm more inclined to shove.

        #4: I'm a nit and I check back: their PF ranges are so wide that 3's are almost as frequent as J's, plus you're 3-way so one of them will have a 3 close to 1/3 of the time, plus you have backdoors, plus you don't fear overcards and can stack them if they hit a pair of K's/Q's, plus you hate being c/r'ed here.
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