100plo: Too loose stackoff? :s
09-03-2014
, 07:01 AM
Villain is unknown.
Do we have enough equity to stack off? We block A4, how many 46 should he have in his calling range from CO vs MP? Same reasoning goes for sets, how many low pairs does an unknown call from CO? At the same time he could have some overcards+FD or overpair+FD. I'm not sure how often an unknown plays those hands like this though. I suspect we are slightly too deep to stack off here. Thoughts?
PokerStars - $1 PL Hi (6 max) ZOOM - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
BTN: $143.19
SB: $132.15
Hero (BB): $109.61
UTG: $104.00
MP: $77.55
CO: $101.18
SB posts SB $0.50, Hero posts BB $1.00
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero has A
5
Q A
fold, MP raises to $3.00, CO calls $3.00, fold, fold, Hero raises to $12.50, fold, CO calls $9.50
Flop: ($28.50, 2 players) 5 2 3
Hero bets $18.00, CO raises to $81.22, Hero raises to $97.11 and is all-in, CO calls $7.46 and is all-in
Do we have enough equity to stack off? We block A4, how many 46 should he have in his calling range from CO vs MP? Same reasoning goes for sets, how many low pairs does an unknown call from CO? At the same time he could have some overcards+FD or overpair+FD. I'm not sure how often an unknown plays those hands like this though. I suspect we are slightly too deep to stack off here. Thoughts?
PokerStars - $1 PL Hi (6 max) ZOOM - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
BTN: $143.19
SB: $132.15
Hero (BB): $109.61
UTG: $104.00
MP: $77.55
CO: $101.18
SB posts SB $0.50, Hero posts BB $1.00
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero has A
5 Q A fold, MP raises to $3.00, CO calls $3.00, fold, fold, Hero raises to $12.50, fold, CO calls $9.50
Flop: ($28.50, 2 players) 5
2 3 Hero bets $18.00, CO raises to $81.22, Hero raises to $97.11 and is all-in, CO calls $7.46 and is all-in
09-03-2014
, 07:18 AM
09-03-2014
, 07:28 AM
We don't have any stats on the guy 
I don't know, I haven't played enough at 100plo to really know what people are doing and what they aren't. I imagine that people would shove, but I can't know.
I don't know, I haven't played enough at 100plo to really know what people are doing and what they aren't. I imagine that people would shove, but I can't know.
09-08-2014
, 08:24 AM
| ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation |
| 600,000 trials (Randomized) |
| board: 235 |
| Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
|---|---|---|---|
| AhAsQc5c | 27.61% | 159,315 | 12,699 |
| 55,22,33,53,52,32,445,46,A4,(2,3,4,5,TT-KK):hh | 72.39% | 427,986 | 12,699 |
against a very wide stackoff range.
I think it's a very easy bet/fold.
As you also have the Ah, it makes it less likely he's stacking off with a bare flush draw.
That's how you do against a tight range.
| ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation |
| 600,000 trials (Randomized) |
| board: 235 |
| Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
|---|---|---|---|
| AhAsQc5c | 8.17% | 39,914 | 18,218 |
| 55,22,33,46,A4 | 91.83% | 541,868 | 18,218 |
09-08-2014
, 10:41 AM
Quote:
against a very wide stackoff range.
I think it's a very easy bet/fold.
As you also have the Ah, it makes it less likely he's stacking off with a bare flush draw.
That's how you do against a tight range.
| ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation |
| 600,000 trials (Randomized) |
| board: 235 |
| Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
|---|---|---|---|
| AhAsQc5c | 27.61% | 159,315 | 12,699 |
| 55,22,33,53,52,32,445,46,A4,(2,3,4,5,TT-KK):hh | 72.39% | 427,986 | 12,699 |
against a very wide stackoff range.
I think it's a very easy bet/fold.
As you also have the Ah, it makes it less likely he's stacking off with a bare flush draw.
That's how you do against a tight range.
| ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation |
| 600,000 trials (Randomized) |
| board: 235 |
| Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
|---|---|---|---|
| AhAsQc5c | 8.17% | 39,914 | 18,218 |
| 55,22,33,46,A4 | 91.83% | 541,868 | 18,218 |
09-08-2014
, 11:29 AM
09-09-2014
, 08:40 AM
Quote:
good to see you are playing plo.. we could always use more fish in the pool!
At 100plo i think this is definitely a fold. I find that a lot of weaker players will just call a lot of the time with a 5 and a flush draw or gutter, so I think you are generally up against a made hand here.
At 100plo i think this is definitely a fold. I find that a lot of weaker players will just call a lot of the time with a 5 and a flush draw or gutter, so I think you are generally up against a made hand here.
In hindsight I agree, I think bet/fold is the best line.