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100plo- AA34 OOP 480 BB eff (Play a hand with me) 100plo- AA34 OOP 480 BB eff (Play a hand with me)

01-07-2014 , 11:58 PM
New to plo. having decent success but the games I play in are fairly tight preflop, and just bleed post. So preflop is still lost to me.

Villain is pretty bad, we have been doing some trash talking back and forth, he even wanted to paly me hu but backed down when I actually sat a game. He isnt good at all, but understand some concepts it seems. He plays way too many hands pre, which results in him being a little stationy post. I dont know how capable he is of running a huge bluff. Havent seen him do one yet.

He cold called a 3 bet from Sb with Kt54, single k high fd.

He has 3 bet me a couple times before, one time min 3 betting over me with KKTTr. He flop top set on k46ss and potted 3 ways.

Also recall him 3 betting a weak king high at some point(along the same lines of kt54 single suited)

on bovada so no exact player stats. But he is def not a fan of me, and has loosened up versus me over the last hour.

My image: Maniac. I am 3 betting and raising relentlessly, especially now that its shorthanded.


Hand:
    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #22141941

    CO: $492.24 (492.2 bb)
    BTN: $62.40 (62.4 bb)
    BB: $68.43 (68.4 bb)
    Hero (MP2): $484.21 (484.2 bb)



    Pre:
    Spoiler:
    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A 3 A 4
    Hero raises to $3, CO raises to $10, BTN folds, BB calls $9, Hero???


    Flop:
    Spoiler:
    Hero raises to $40, CO calls $30, BB calls $30

    Flop: ($120) 9 9 Q (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero ???


    Turn:
    Spoiler:

    Hero checks, CO bets $33, BB calls $28.43 and is all-in, Hero calls $33

    Turn: ($214.43) A (3 players, 1 is all-in)

    hero???



    River:
    Spoiler:

    Hero checks, CO checks

    River: ($214.43) T (3 players, 1 is all-in)
    Hero ???





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    My thoughts:
    Spoiler:

    Obviously I am not worried about being behind, he doesnt bet quads on flop, so I have the effective nuts. The river is decent for completing hands, and doubt he has boat+ that isnt 9T or a random TT, so he is weighted towards straights and 9xxx. Come river. I think the river can have something more than just bet and hope. Any value in induce?

    My thoughts on preflop: I was trying to make ita sizing, where BB might just go all in when CO calls. But still reopen the action to me(to make it like 120 to set up close to a 1:1 SPR.

    Last edited by CCuster_911; 01-08-2014 at 12:07 AM.
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    01-08-2014 , 12:13 AM
    Bro do not put spoilers coz it is hard to read. Only the end results can be in.

    Pot it pre flop.
    Flop - bet fold like 80.
    Turn - nh.
    River - pot it.
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    01-08-2014 , 12:29 AM
    Yeah, huge bet on the river (180-210). Villain has lots of trips here and some boats. He didn't call a 4b pre to hit trips on the flop and fold

    Betting small to induce seems terrible.
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    01-08-2014 , 12:45 AM
    love the spoilers!
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    01-08-2014 , 01:03 AM
    Bet like 95 $ otr. Empty side pot, ranges, flop/turn play etc. and specially villain..
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    01-08-2014 , 03:45 AM
    80$ bet on flop is waaaaaaaaaay to much 3 way.

    ill bet 30ish.
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    01-08-2014 , 04:39 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mecantplay
    Bro do not put spoilers coz it is hard to read. Only the end results can be in.

    Pot it pre flop.
    Flop - bet fold like 80.
    Turn - nh.
    River - pot it.
    Well I think its pretty hard to be objective, and i was interested in play on not only pre both mainly also flop + river. I could start Op with just pre, get a couple answers, do flop, etc. But that would take a long time. I am not a huge fan of "line checks" because I think in general people are bad at taking out future comings and happenings when evaluating. Like obviously I effectively hit nuts, so bombing prior streets may sneak into your mind more easier.

    I think with spoils people can better objectively answer their opinions as the hand develop. i will keep your thoughts in mind though.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tmckendry
    Yeah, huge bet on the river (180-210). Villain has lots of trips here and some boats. He didn't call a 4b pre to hit trips on the flop and fold

    Betting small to induce seems terrible.
    I am probably shooting myself in the foot and opening myself to absue by asnwer this, but...I was going to do the other induce

    Spoiler:
    Checking ...

    My reasoning being he has very few hands that call a bet that dont bet imo. So a c/r can level him to not only bluffing some, but also getting some more value if he magically has a boat or stations KJ.


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hsdeluxe
    80$ bet on flop is waaaaaaaaaay to much 3 way.

    ill bet 30ish.
    Should we really put huge concern into the stack with 28 at this point? Serious question, since I am somewhat new at some plo nuances.
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    01-08-2014 , 04:46 AM
    You have a maniac image. Villain checked turn. Checking river is the worst option imo.

    I'd bet big like 80%PSB
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    01-08-2014 , 05:35 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CCuster_911
    Checking ...

    My reasoning being he has very few hands that call a bet that dont bet imo. So a c/r can level him to not only bluffing some, but also getting some more value if he magically has a boat or stations KJ.
    betting is pretty much always gonna be more +ev then checking in those spots @plo. because:
    -people don't call river check-raises light in general
    -he's very likely to have at least something, he doesn't need to bluff with
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    01-08-2014 , 11:45 AM
    Bet flop.
    If you are check calling flop, donk 100% of your range on this turn.
    As played river is a bet, but you shouldn't come to the river like this.
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    01-09-2014 , 12:36 PM
    Gotta bet the flop to protect. Pot is pretty large and you don't want to give out free cards.

    River is a clear bet. Villain almost never bluffs here and isn't calling check raises here since your hand screams aaxx.
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