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Old 05-28-2012, 10:20 PM   #1
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100plo 3b pot 3way

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 3 players
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sb is a fish 89/40/20 aggr 1.9 aggr 58 hands, cb 62% regular and 100% in 3b.
BB is 57/26/0 aggr. 2.4, fold to 3b 0%, fold to cb 100% in 3b, 76 hands
Hero (BTN): $98.00
SB: $37.10
BB: $70.41

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with 4 J 8 3
Hero raises to $3, SB raises to $5, BB calls $4, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($15.00) 6 3 J (3 players)
SB bets $14.32, BB raises to $57.28, [color=red]Hero ?
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:22 PM   #2
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Re: 100plo 3b pot 3way

I'd shove only 70bb looks like they can have wide range
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Old 05-29-2012, 03:34 AM   #3
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Re: 100plo 3b pot 3way

BB's ftcb=100% in 3b pots is making me lose confidence, I'm putting BB on 2p/sets/wraps/NFD. Then my sim tells that the shove is a bit worse than breakeven as our EV is (0.316*$111.3+0.425*$66.62)-$65.41=($35.17+$28.31)-$65.41=-$1.93.

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Board :: Jc3c6d
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Pot 1:
 Player   Equity   Win Hi   Tie Hi                  Range                      
    
   1       31.6     30.7     1.9                    Jd3d8h4h               
   2       47.1     46.1     2.0      (J6,J3,63,JJ,66,33,754,542,Ac*c)&26% 
   3       21.3     20.9     0.9         (J,AA-QQ,63,66,33,54,*c*c)&20%    
Pot 2:
 Player   Equity   Win Hi   Tie Hi                  Range                      
    
   1       42.5     41.4     2.2                    Jd3d8h4h               
   2       57.5     56.4     2.2      (J6,J3,63,JJ,66,33,754,542,Ac*c)&26% 
   3       0.0      0.0      0.0         (J,AA-QQ,63,66,33,54,*c*c)&20%
Intuitively, I'm prone to just fold in marginal spots like this and see their hands without swinging variance - we've got only 58-76 hands on them and solid reads are yet to be made. That's especially true if your gf sweats you

Btw there's a scary thread on what happens if you tell your gf about swings. I like Doyle Brunson's advice to pay fixed amounts to her regardless of them. (I'm worried because she makes you post 5 hands in a row, which may harm your forum reputation.)

Edit: if we assume that SB cbet/calls with bare 6's and 3's too, it doesn't change our equities.
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Old 05-29-2012, 11:51 AM   #4
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Re: 100plo 3b pot 3way

i legitimately think folding to the min 3bet given the BB flats is probably hte best option, unless one is a huuuge postflop fish, our hand just doesnt play that well 3 way
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Old 05-30-2012, 03:14 AM   #5
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Re: 100plo 3b pot 3way

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i legitimately think folding to the min 3bet given the BB flats is probably hte best option, unless one is a huuuge postflop fish, our hand just doesnt play that well 3 way
Closing the action getting 7:1 with absolute and best-relative position is criminal with any hand we are opening here, even more-so with a huge fish in the pot.

They only way we should ever fold here is if we're the huge postflop fish, not the 3-bettor. But that would never happen since we're all amazing.
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