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03-14-2014 , 01:09 PM
No history stats on villain but I had him color marked as fish so assuming Id played with him a long time ago before I lost some stats.


Apart from ck shipping turn whats good here? All thoughts welcome.


    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #24852161

    BTN: $115.61 (115.6 bb)
    SB: $72.95 (73 bb)
    Hero (BB): $200.77 (200.8 bb)
    UTG: $97.50 (97.5 bb)
    MP: $86.50 (86.5 bb)
    CO: $227.61 (227.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with T Q J K
    3 folds, BTN raises to $2, SB calls $1.50, Hero raises to $8, BTN calls $6, SB calls $6

    Flop: ($24) Q 4 4 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $13, BTN calls $13, SB folds

    Turn: ($50) Q (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $27, Hero calls $27

    River: ($104) 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $67.61 and is all-in, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $104.00 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: Q 4 4 Q 3
    BTN mucked and won $101.20 ($53.20 net)
    Hero mucked T Q J K and lost (-$48 net)



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    03-14-2014 , 01:44 PM
    Like you said, the turn x/c isn't good, especially since you folded river. Without stats or reads I would just cbet turn and GII. Against agro opponents would x/r turn since they will bluff/semi bluff a decent % of the time, also good to balance for the times you have AhXh and want to see a river card for free.
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    03-14-2014 , 03:01 PM
    I actually think your turn line is pretty good. Not sure I fold river thought given how entirely polarized villain is by that point. He is gonna jam this a bunch thinking your range is much weaker than it actually is given your turn line. Call turn call river looks pretty decent to me.
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    03-14-2014 , 05:07 PM
    cc is, by far, best line on turn (especially with your stats )

    I'm calling river.
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    03-14-2014 , 09:01 PM
    Wondering why you like x/c? Isn't a x/r good here to get villain to hero fold 4xxx, which might not call a bet on the river anyway if he doesn't fill up? and also we GII good vs a FD and weak boat draws if called. I think giving villain a chance to fold his equity here would be optimal since we arent nutted, but I'm open to other thoughts?
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    03-14-2014 , 11:48 PM
    think betting turn is the best play - if we check I dont think hes going to turn kings into a bluff and he checks back alot of worse Qx - seems like a clear bet/c
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    03-15-2014 , 10:06 AM
    I think cc turn is good, didnt think it was bad. River call tho, a fish making that turn sizing and shoving river with a worst hand than KQxx is what I struggle with.
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    03-15-2014 , 11:13 AM
    Can one of you explain why a x/c is more superior than just betting or x/r'ing?? I really don't see it
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    03-15-2014 , 11:15 AM
    if he s likely to have a 4 then check shipping turn looks good, a 4 usually has reasonable amount of equity and might call when behind.
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    03-15-2014 , 02:02 PM
    The simple answer would be chk the turn because Id never bet it with AAxx or 4xxx.
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    03-15-2014 , 03:34 PM
    We are playing the hand aggressivly and fearlessly pre and flop and then we turn our hand into bluffcatcher on turn? Why? Our story is not good at river...

    We have very weak hand or the nuts. Villain betting river is profit over 50% of the times, if he senses this. Why people wanna make moves in Omaha with non-nut hands? Never really realized this on 100bb deep and in Zoom which is very nitty form of poker.

    My advice is to keep the story straigth all the way.
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