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Old 06-08-2012, 09:17 AM   #1
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1/2 live Is draw big enough?

BB KJT8, king high hearts. I have 600 button has 300 ish. Two callers button raises too 10.

Flop is Ad Qh 5h. what is my line?

sorry if this is fundamental still learning.
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Old 06-08-2012, 10:41 AM   #2
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Re: 1/2 live Is draw big enough?

did they just limp or did they call the button raise?
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Old 06-08-2012, 10:46 AM   #3
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Re: 1/2 live Is draw big enough?

2 Limpers, only one called button raise. To the flop 3 way.
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Old 06-08-2012, 10:56 AM   #4
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Re: 1/2 live Is draw big enough?

I am not folding the flop but I am also not getting it in here. I guess with reads you either check/call or you lead fold.
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Old 06-08-2012, 11:39 AM   #5
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Re: 1/2 live Is draw big enough?

whats the 3rd players stack size ?
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Old 06-08-2012, 11:39 AM   #6
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Re: 1/2 live Is draw big enough?

lol @ bet/folding this
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Old 06-08-2012, 11:58 AM   #7
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Re: 1/2 live Is draw big enough?

Def. not b/f but probably bet and getting in is bit loose. I'd like leading the flop and after that it's about actions and opponents how aggro can you play.
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Old 06-08-2012, 12:17 PM   #8
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Re: 1/2 live Is draw big enough?

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whats the 3rd players stack size ?
$400.
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Old 06-08-2012, 02:20 PM   #9
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lol @ bet/folding this
? Why? I am not saying bet and fold to a small raise but if I am getting raised pot on a lead then I am not in great shape here. Its hard to fold this hand but stacking off in a live 1/2 game with this kind of hand is not always good.

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Old 06-08-2012, 05:47 PM   #10
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Re: 1/2 live Is draw big enough?

x/c one or two play cautious

i woulda 3bet if btns not a nit
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Old 06-10-2012, 03:01 AM   #11
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Re: 1/2 live Is draw big enough?

weird how much difference it makes that we don't have the nfd. with it, i bet/3 bet/ get it in. without the nfd, i like c/c or b/c.
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Old 06-10-2012, 05:02 AM   #12
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Re: 1/2 live Is draw big enough?

it doesnt matter as long as you dont fold. either c/c flop and turn and c/f river on blank or just get it in yourself... Folding would be terrible
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Old 06-11-2012, 04:43 AM   #13
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Re: 1/2 live Is draw big enough?

Disclaimer: I'm new to PLO and suck at anything beyond short-stacking.

From a few days in the 1-2 games around Vegas, my inclination is this:

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it doesnt matter as long as you dont fold. either c/c flop and turn and c/f river on blank or just get it in yourself... Folding would be terrible
I mean, live 1-2 players seem to regularly stack off with "combo draws" like 2336 etc. here. There's not necessarily reason to fear the NFD because we're only 3-handed and our opponents are probably not picky about their starting hands.

We're in fine shape all-in unless we're against the NFD (even QQ is only 55% against us), but the naked NFD is also a made hand that beats us so that's where we're in trouble. If we have any fold equity whatsoever, i'm inclined to XR pot the flop and plan to keep firing almost regardless the board until we get raised. Even if we're against the NFD, it's a dog to hit and we're likely to bluff out a pair of aces if we have enough left to fire on the river.

However, if we don't expect much folding, XC is probably fine until we make something, then lead out. On the 2nd nut flush, bet/fold is probably OK.
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