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08-08-2014 , 03:05 AM
villain 73/65 3bet 21

no other reads

Hero (BB): $73.05 (146.1 bb)
SB: $91.74 (183.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 3 3 9
SB raises to $1.25, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.50) 3 4 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $1.58, Hero raises to $4.35, SB calls $2.77

Turn: ($11.20) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $5.35, SB raises to $26.75, Hero??

interested in thought flop turn

Last edited by IIIIIII; 08-08-2014 at 03:13 AM.
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08-08-2014 , 04:59 AM
When the obv straight gets there + 8 blocker I lean toward fold. I think you should bet bigger on turn.
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08-08-2014 , 07:14 AM
Turn halfpot after flop CR looks soooo weak on this texture..
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08-08-2014 , 07:43 AM
i´m a big fan of defending your bb wide, but that looks ridic even to me...

turn is a bittersweet card, c/ is def an option here, esp if looking at possible river spots.

if b/, bet bigger. semideep as we are, i´d check most of the time though.

as played, meh. we don´t have one str8 blocker, but we also might have induced it. doubt it with this sizing though. call to c/c, c/f and b some rivers is def an option. imo we could quite credibly/easily get away with a bluff pot otr on most hearts since i think he would 3bet flop a decent amount with his 56Ahh or 56Khh combos. this is just more or less putting the guy on a naked str8 though which i think he has but not really good poker to narrow ranges in plo down to one card..

prob fold turn as default now as played, def fold pre.
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08-08-2014 , 09:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IIIIIII
interested in thought flop turn
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08-08-2014 , 10:09 AM
+1 I defend a lot too, but would fold pre
Flop c/r is ridic small.
Would too bet fold a lil bigger ott.
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08-09-2014 , 06:04 AM
why bet turn bigger, don't we want to pot control here?

Last edited by IIIIIII; 08-09-2014 at 06:11 AM.
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08-09-2014 , 06:20 AM
Because a half pot bet screams "I hated that turn, bluff me". Not sure how to write it out but imagine:

When you bet half pot villain decides to bluff-raise you there 60% of the time.
If you bet 3/4 pot villain decides to bluff-raise you 30% of the time.

So even though in the 2nd option you bet more and then when you get bluffed you lose more money, that happens less often so on average villain bluffs you off less money.

That and you still get more money in vs heart draws/2pairs/other stuff you're still ahead of
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08-09-2014 , 01:18 PM
Is there any good reasons to shove this turn? Like he could be doing this with blockers

Also is shoving better than calling if we do decide to not fold?
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08-09-2014 , 01:20 PM
Yea but that's a lot of money to pitch in on a turn where he easily can have the straight..
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08-09-2014 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
Yea but that's a lot of money to pitch in on a turn where he easily can have the straight..
but folding a set seems bad, as he could be doing this with worse

I think if we call turn we have to call river also, but folding set = meh

hmm
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08-09-2014 , 02:12 PM
If you construct a decent range for him to raise on the turn, combined with how poor visibility we have on almost all non-pairing rivers, I think you'll find the fold easier.

Also, betting 3/4 pot+ on turn instead of 1/2 pot will, as I've mentioned, likely cause villain to play his hands more straight-up and make him less inclined to bluff raise you here.

All of this is my highly subjective opinion, and I can't really say that I beat PLO50 level (haven't played it in years)
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08-09-2014 , 08:16 PM
do u think A5 folds to a shove here?
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08-10-2014 , 06:24 PM
horrible hand to defend with, fold pre
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08-11-2014 , 02:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingandtheduck
horrible hand to defend with, fold pre
Quote:
Originally Posted by IIIIIII
interested in thoughtS flop turn

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08-11-2014 , 02:36 AM
    Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #29562841

    Hero (BB): $73.05 (146.1 bb)
    SB: $91.74 (183.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 3 3 9
    SB raises to $1.25, Hero calls $0.75

    Flop: ($2.50) 3 4 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, SB bets $1.58, Hero raises to $4.35, SB calls $2.77

    Turn: ($11.20) 2 (2 players)
    Hero bets $5.35, SB raises to $26.75, Hero raises to $67.45 and is all-in, SB folds

    Results: $64.70 pot ($0.50 rake)
    Final Board: 3 4 8 2
    Hero mucked 8 3 3 9 and won $64.20 ($31.85 net)
    SB mucked and lost (-$32.35 net)



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    08-11-2014 , 03:24 AM
    You induced. Def make a note that he will react to weak leads and exploit this more.
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    08-12-2014 , 08:08 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by IIIIIII
    do u think A5 folds to a shove here?
    no, youve just folded out his bluffing range and most likely only getting action from better, poss a good draw, but he cant fold once hes raised pot with a good draw, so hes juts doing this with air or str8s i imagine
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    08-13-2014 , 02:05 AM
    i check turn
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    08-13-2014 , 03:45 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by WhateverSon
    i check turn
    yeah this is clearly best option

    Since we did bet turn, do u think A5 folds to a shove here overall to make it a profitable play?

    Plus repeats
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    08-13-2014 , 12:12 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by IIIIIII
    Since we did bet turn, do u think A5 folds to a shove here overall to make it a profitable play?
    Usually not.
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    08-15-2014 , 02:53 AM
    i c/c turn rather than lead. as played tho i think i fold
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