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06-30-2009 , 03:57 PM
I want to get good at plo cash games because i think i can do well in them. But i want to get some information on basic pointers like what type of starting hands you should play or things like that whether it be post or pre flop.Should you ever limp. What percentage of hands should i play pre? Should I use 4 colour as well? Thanks
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06-30-2009 , 04:04 PM
read a book, use 4-color deck.
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06-30-2009 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Hattifnatt
read a book, use 4-color deck.
whats the best book for plo?
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06-30-2009 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jdibss
whats the best book for plo?

farha's book is the best plo book out right now.
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06-30-2009 , 04:43 PM
Sike!

http://dailyvariance.com/

If you got the money and depends on how serious you are I suppose.
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06-30-2009 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by deuchebaggery
farha's book is the best plo book out right now.
At least you always live up to your handle
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06-30-2009 , 06:48 PM
Definitely 4-color deck. Pick up Jeff Hwang's first book. It has good info on starting hands. Play in position and draw to the nuts.
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06-30-2009 , 07:48 PM
Best way to learn is to get some hands under your belt. But seriously always only draw to the nuts, and if the board pairs some1 will have a full house
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06-30-2009 , 08:52 PM
What should I do to begin my PLO carrer? Here we go:

1) Tilt control: Try to get some or you will be crushed by PLO. ( There are some good books out there about the issue)
2) Be nity with your bankroll ( Something btwn 75-100 buyins will do the trick)
3) Accept the PLO variance. It is HUGE. Downswings of 20 buy ins are the rule not the exception
4) Buy Omaha Manager. The best program out there. Use it to find your leaks, constantly review your hands after sessions ( You have no idea how important that is)
5) Read some book to have an exactly idea of straight draws and value of hands in omaha, the best are: Jeff Hwang, Bob Ciafone, Reuben. (These are all for fr but there are new ones about shorthanded by Jeff Hwang and Slobotton, visit amazon.com)

6)Now you start playing. Try to start tight preflop and when you get more skilled you can loose it up ( most plo players do exactly the oposite of that).
7) Try to keep. VPIP: 25-35 PFR: 15-25 3 bet: 4-6
8) PLAY SUPER TIGHT FROM THE BLINDS. You have to fold the big majority of your hands from blinds in PLO. Believe me don`t defend light your blinds on PLO.
9) PLO IS POSITION, POSITION, POSITION. Position is way more important in PLO than in NLHE, you have to avoid at maximum any spot where you are OOP in PLO.

10) Now you have to learn the basic equity in the most common situations in PLO. It is hard!!! You have to make a lot of simulations before you consider yourself to be capable of telling the equities in PLO. Two poker sites are gonna do the trick: twodimes.com, propokertools.com (you can determine ranges in this one).
11) While playing go to those sites all the time and see what your equity was in every spot that you were aui. You are gonna discover that it is hard to find a spot where you are more than 75% favorite.

12) Start posting in twoplustwo like a crazy maniac.. Play-have a doubt-post-discuss-play-have.... There is no way you are gonna be really good without going through this process over and over again.

I am tired now. I am gonna post some more strategic tips later on.. I think
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06-30-2009 , 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by renator21
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4) Buy Omaha Manager. The best program out there. Use it to find your leaks, constantly review your hands after sessions ( You have no idea how important that is)k

I suck at this. What does your post session review consist of? I just passivly watch the hands , quicky get bored and learn/remember very little.
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07-01-2009 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by brianpower
I suck at this. What does your post session review consist of? I just passivly watch the hands , quicky get bored and learn/remember very little.
Just take the hands that you lost more or win more. Try to think about them, run equity, if you have any doubt post it and discuss it. It would be just like 10 big hands, If you have more time to spend keep going to the smaller pots and redoing the same process.
To watch an entire session would really be boring...
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07-01-2009 , 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by renator21
Slobotton


Slotboom
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07-01-2009 , 03:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by renator21
What should I do to begin my PLO carrer? Here we go:

1) Tilt control: Try to get some or you will be crushed by PLO. ( There are some good books out there about the issue)
2) Be nity with your bankroll ( Something btwn 75-100 buyins will do the trick)
3) Accept the PLO variance. It is HUGE. Downswings of 20 buy ins are the rule not the exception
4) Buy Omaha Manager. The best program out there. Use it to find your leaks, constantly review your hands after sessions ( You have no idea how important that is)
5) Read some book to have an exactly idea of straight draws and value of hands in omaha, the best are: Jeff Hwang, Bob Ciafone, Reuben. (These are all for fr but there are new ones about shorthanded by Jeff Hwang and Slobotton, visit amazon.com)

6)Now you start playing. Try to start tight preflop and when you get more skilled you can loose it up ( most plo players do exactly the oposite of that).
7) Try to keep. VPIP: 25-35 PFR: 15-25 3 bet: 4-6
8) PLAY SUPER TIGHT FROM THE BLINDS. You have to fold the big majority of your hands from blinds in PLO. Believe me don`t defend light your blinds on PLO.
9) PLO IS POSITION, POSITION, POSITION. Position is way more important in PLO than in NLHE, you have to avoid at maximum any spot where you are OOP in PLO.

10) Now you have to learn the basic equity in the most common situations in PLO. It is hard!!! You have to make a lot of simulations before you consider yourself to be capable of telling the equities in PLO. Two poker sites are gonna do the trick: twodimes.com, propokertools.com (you can determine ranges in this one).
11) While playing go to those sites all the time and see what your equity was in every spot that you were aui. You are gonna discover that it is hard to find a spot where you are more than 75% favorite.

12) Start posting in twoplustwo like a crazy maniac.. Play-have a doubt-post-discuss-play-have.... There is no way you are gonna be really good without going through this process over and over again.

I am tired now. I am gonna post some more strategic tips later on.. I think
good one
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07-01-2009 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by renator21
What should I do to begin my PLO carrer? Here we go:

1) Tilt control: Try to get some or you will be crushed by PLO. ( There are some good books out there about the issue)
2) Be nity with your bankroll ( Something btwn 75-100 buyins will do the trick)
3) Accept the PLO variance. It is HUGE. Downswings of 20 buy ins are the rule not the exception
4) Buy Omaha Manager. The best program out there. Use it to find your leaks, constantly review your hands after sessions ( You have no idea how important that is)
5) Read some book to have an exactly idea of straight draws and value of hands in omaha, the best are: Jeff Hwang, Bob Ciafone, Reuben. (These are all for fr but there are new ones about shorthanded by Jeff Hwang and Slobotton, visit amazon.com)

6)Now you start playing. Try to start tight preflop and when you get more skilled you can loose it up ( most plo players do exactly the oposite of that).
7) Try to keep. VPIP: 25-35 PFR: 15-25 3 bet: 4-6
8) PLAY SUPER TIGHT FROM THE BLINDS. You have to fold the big majority of your hands from blinds in PLO. Believe me don`t defend light your blinds on PLO.
9) PLO IS POSITION, POSITION, POSITION. Position is way more important in PLO than in NLHE, you have to avoid at maximum any spot where you are OOP in PLO.

10) Now you have to learn the basic equity in the most common situations in PLO. It is hard!!! You have to make a lot of simulations before you consider yourself to be capable of telling the equities in PLO. Two poker sites are gonna do the trick: twodimes.com, propokertools.com (you can determine ranges in this one).
11) While playing go to those sites all the time and see what your equity was in every spot that you were aui. You are gonna discover that it is hard to find a spot where you are more than 75% favorite.

12) Start posting in twoplustwo like a crazy maniac.. Play-have a doubt-post-discuss-play-have.... There is no way you are gonna be really good without going through this process over and over again.

I am tired now. I am gonna post some more strategic tips later on.. I think
Continuation:

13) You have to learn how to play AAxx. Some tips:
To vary your play flat call bad AAxx from OOP and IP. So you add some deception to them.
If you can put 35% of your stack pre with any AAxx leaving you with 1PSB do it and shove the rest in most flops.
Don`t put yourself in a situation where you are deep and it becomes clear that you have AAxx, specially if you have bad AAxx
14) Donk bet: You are gonna have a lot of profitable situations in omaha where you have to donkbet, unlike NLHE where you almost always check to the raiser omaha doen`t work this way, try to learn the situations where it is correct to donkbet. There are a lot of them
15) Give credit to your oponnents. At NLHE you can get away with a lot of hero calls, however in PLO you have to choose your situations to make a herocall carefully and against the right opponents. (Be careful with that half pot size bet lead from villain OTR, they seem to have almost everytime when they half pot....lol)
16) In general you don`t want to call a 3 bet with ( however, you could find a lot of situations where it would change): Axxx, pairs hands, disconnected hands.
17) You can call 3 bet a lot in omaha because the equity pre is so close, you can get away ( depending on your skills postflop) with 60-80% probably
18) It is harder to multitable PLO, in the beginning you should be playing at maximum 4 tables, you can add more later.
19) BET FOLD TURN: This makes no sense for NLHE player because it is so counterintuitive for them, but you have to learn the right spots to bet fold turn If you want to become a sucessful PLO player. It is one of the most important skills in this game. Work on it.

20) " When all is said and done, if I spent most of my time sitting at a poker table, I would feel that I was a loser in the game of life" Barry Greenstein`s book. Try to mater 20 If you can

(I am tired again, I`ll write more later).
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07-01-2009 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by WWJfergusonD
Definitely 4-color deck. Pick up Jeff Hwang's first book. It has good info on starting hands. Play in position and draw to the nuts.
His book is so-so, personally I think it should be titled...Nut Peddling 101
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07-01-2009 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jdibss
I want to get good at plo cash games because i think i can do well in them.
Survey says...







YOU WILL FAIL
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07-01-2009 , 12:59 PM
You could join one of the training sites Cardrunners or DuecesCracked, imho wazz on CR and michaelsc on DC are definitely worth watching.
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