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01-18-2009 , 09:41 AM
Did SNE mean $105k and 87% rakeback? , except that you get the car earlier

I havent played that much this year but if i continue in the same way i get around 650.000 VPPs. Im wondering if its worth the extra effort.
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01-20-2009 , 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by antchev
My point is that when 9-tabling 20 BIs swongs are quite common, when 24-tabling and under the pressure to play 5K+ hands a day you can expect 50 BIs swongs and it doesn't feel good.
id like to see some 50BI swings over a few days.......
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01-20-2009 , 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Poolside
id like to see some 50BI swings over a few days.......
Halfway there in last two days and going strong. Expect the 50BI graph in a couple of days.
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01-20-2009 , 01:22 PM
I'm finally starting to feel like I'm playing decent. Although i did miss click 3bet min raise a river to get a guy all in for $150 with Q high today. Also folded top set on a 3d5dKs board after i made a raise... F 24 tables. 67k, should be hitting 73.5k ish between today/tomorrow.
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01-22-2009 , 10:33 PM
How much VPPs per hand do you guys get from PLO100-600?
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01-23-2009 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by antchev
I'm giving 2 to 1 that no one makes it to SNE playing Omaha, at least not this year with the current state of the games.
I will wager that I make 1 million vpps just from PLO this year. I will bet as much as you want. Also I only have 20k vpps so far this year, but I can't really pass on 2 to 1.
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01-23-2009 , 09:13 AM
I am interested in the bet, wouldn't invest serious cash tough ... Perhaps more people join the bet.
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01-23-2009 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by antchev
I'm giving 2 to 1 that no one makes it to SNE playing Omaha, at least not this year with the current state of the games.
I'm willing to book this if you will actually put money up.

I can honestly name at least 5 players that have very good chance at making it this year... possibly more. But I'd be shocked if fewer than 5 people log more than 1 million VPPs at PLO.
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01-23-2009 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by antchev
No point to lock money down for a whole year...
...and I'm not a prop bet person. It was figurative speech as in "I don't believe anyone will do it playing only Omaha". I guess I should bo more careful with such statements in a gambling forum.
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01-24-2009 , 01:37 AM
2009

52 Hands --- 600PLO 6-max
2854 Hands - 400PL0 6-max
3564 Hands - 200PL0 6-max

MGR: $1407.42

VPPs: 6215

VPPs/hand: .9056

FPPS @ supernova X .016 (4k bonus exchange rate)/MGR= 24.73% rakeback

MGR per hand = 0.22645534995977473853580048270314

at 250k VPPs = 276k hands = $56614 MGR
FPPs = 875k - 50k milestone = 825k @ $.016 = 13.2k + 2k milestone = 15.2k
RB = 26.85%

at 400k VPPs = 442k hands = 90582.5 MGR
FPPs = 1400k - 150k milestones = 1250k @ $.016 = 20k + 2k,3k,4k milestone = 29k
RB = 32.01%

at 500k VPPs = 552k hands = 113228 MGR
FPPs = 1750k - 200k milestones = 1550k @ $.016 = 24.8k + 2k,3k,4k,5k milestone = 38.8k
RB = 34.27%

at 800k VPPs = 883k hands = 181165 MGR
FPPs = 2800k - 300k milestones = 2500k @ $.016 = 40k + 2k,3k,4k,5k,6k 8k milestone = 68k
RB = 37.5%

at 1,000k VPPs = 1104k hands = 226456 MGR
FPPs = 3500k - 300k milestones = 3200k @ $.016 = 51.2k + 2k,3k,4k,5k,6k 8k milestone = 79.2k + 20k cash (i would take cash over tourney) = 99.2k
RB = 43.80% + WCOOP ticket
or 44.95% RB (if you include ticket in RB)

i really should have done like 275k,375k, 475k, 775k, 975k. by including the milestones right at the point of hitting them, i'm inflating the rb % slightly. unless of course you're smart enough to hit a milestone close to the end of the year, quit exactly at that milestone, and work on clearing it the next year will your RB numbers ever max out like this.
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01-24-2009 , 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by antchev
I'm giving 2 to 1 that no one makes it to SNE playing Omaha, at least not this year with the current state of the games.
are you kidding? I'm at 90K VPP without breaking much of a sweat
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01-24-2009 , 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by shmoo101
2009

52 Hands --- 600PLO 6-max
2854 Hands - 400PL0 6-max
3564 Hands - 200PL0 6-max

MGR: $1407.42

VPPs: 6215

VPPs/hand: .9056

FPPS @ supernova X .016 (4k bonus exchange rate)/MGR= 24.73% rakeback

MGR per hand = 0.22645534995977473853580048270314

at 250k VPPs = 276k hands = $56614 MGR
FPPs = 875k - 50k milestone = 825k @ $.016 = 13.2k + 2k milestone = 15.2k
RB = 26.85%

at 400k VPPs = 442k hands = 90582.5 MGR
FPPs = 1400k - 150k milestones = 1250k @ $.016 = 20k + 2k,3k,4k milestone = 29k
RB = 32.01%

at 500k VPPs = 552k hands = 113228 MGR
FPPs = 1750k - 200k milestones = 1550k @ $.016 = 24.8k + 2k,3k,4k,5k milestone = 38.8k
RB = 34.27%

at 800k VPPs = 883k hands = 181165 MGR
FPPs = 2800k - 300k milestones = 2500k @ $.016 = 40k + 2k,3k,4k,5k,6k 8k milestone = 68k
RB = 37.5%

at 1,000k VPPs = 1104k hands = 226456 MGR
FPPs = 3500k - 300k milestones = 3200k @ $.016 = 51.2k + 2k,3k,4k,5k,6k 8k milestone = 79.2k + 20k cash (i would take cash over tourney) = 99.2k
RB = 43.80% + WCOOP ticket
or 44.95% RB (if you include ticket in RB)

i really should have done like 275k,375k, 475k, 775k, 975k. by including the milestones right at the point of hitting them, i'm inflating the rb % slightly. unless of course you're smart enough to hit a milestone close to the end of the year, quit exactly at that milestone, and work on clearing it the next year will your RB numbers ever max out like this.

You will never convert your fpp to real $$$$, with your fpp you'll get electronics, concierge services etc, that's not $ going to your BR helping you when you have bad streaks.

The only real $ you'll get is the milestones bonuses
MTT tickets don't go to your BR, you have to play to convert it to real $ and it consumes your time, and time is money ! BTW you can only count the buy-in value as rakeback and not what you'll get when you cash in theses MTT

That's why even with a SNE "rakeback" you'll get less than every rakeback you can get in any other pokerroom
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01-24-2009 , 06:09 AM
there is also cash bonuses, like 1500$ for 100k FPP and 4000$ for 250k FPP so it really may help you for your bankroll
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01-24-2009 , 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGiorgio
You will never convert your fpp to real $$$$, with your fpp you'll get electronics, concierge services etc, that's not $ going to your BR helping you when you have bad streaks.

The only real $ you'll get is the milestones bonuses
MTT tickets don't go to your BR, you have to play to convert it to real $ and it consumes your time, and time is money ! BTW you can only count the buy-in value as rakeback and not what you'll get when you cash in theses MTT

That's why even with a SNE "rakeback" you'll get less than every rakeback you can get in any other pokerroom
Don't be daft. His post explicitly states he is only using his FPPs for the $4k bonus, which is "real $" sir. Using FPPs for concierge service would only make his rb% even larger.
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01-24-2009 , 01:07 PM
If you really only use the FPPs for cash bonuses and milestones the rakeback % is close to 50%, if you start at supernova and end precisely at SNE.
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01-24-2009 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by grizy
If you really only use the FPPs for cash bonuses and milestones the rakeback % is close to 50%, if you start at supernova and end precisely at SNE.
whats the best way too use em?
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01-24-2009 , 02:07 PM
Max Raises just hit 'n run me at 2/4 if that means anything. He got it in bad too
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01-24-2009 , 02:20 PM
i read the first post ??? what sense makes that....When i want to play Omaha Hi and climb up the limits or my Ranking ....so why i have to post it...was thinking i find ppl who really play serious Omaha Hi , also to get maybe some tipps, and give some tips ...but nothing ...one wants mony cauz he wants to win from 50$ over 5000$ .....what never can be happen .....okay, maybe i have a bad day...lol

Good luck Guys
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01-25-2009 , 12:32 AM
max raises recently seen ratholing 2/4 plo thought there was some reward for seeing him anywhere else but of course he ignored the chat and went along with his shameless ratholing
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01-25-2009 , 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by blopp
whats the best way too use em?
Concierge, which is about 0.0162 instead of the 0.016 from buying the 4000 dollar cash bonus.

If not concierge major tourney entries got better even exchange rates.
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01-25-2009 , 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by grizy
Concierge, which is about 0.0162 instead of the 0.016 from buying the 4000 dollar cash bonus.

If not concierge major tourney entries got better even exchange rates.
really? im almost definitely cashing in for the monte carlo tourney then this year!
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01-25-2009 , 01:32 AM
getting SNE playing MSPLO seems to be one of the easier ways.

like AB i have around 80k and havent really felt like i was playing crazy hours or losing my mind
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01-25-2009 , 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by gordo16
really? im almost definitely cashing in for the monte carlo tourney then this year!
Yeah, if you're SN (not even SNE, I think) they actually upgrade your hotel accommodations to a suite for free so you're really making out like a bandit by getting stars to pay for your packages.

So that little 12k WSOP package for an SN is worth more like 15k or however much suites actually cost (I've been only in suites courtesy of PokerStars... and once, when I booked a poker room at the borgata, checked in at midnight and they only had a suite for me, paid 40 dollars for about 12 hours of suite goodness)

With the concierge service, you just buy whatever you want and then send them a copy of the receipt and they'll reimburse you. If I could somehow order $500 dollars (minimum) of online groceries, I am pretty sure they'd pay for that too.

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01-25-2009 , 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by grizy
With the concierge service, you just buy whatever you want and then send them a copy of the receipt and they'll reimburse you. If I could somehow order $500 dollars (minimum) of online groceries, I am pretty sure they'd pay for that too.
I bought a camera which was around $300 so not quite sure about the minimum.
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01-25-2009 , 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by skates
Max Raises just hit 'n run me at 2/4 if that means anything. He got it in bad too
lol i saw him hit n run at a LO8 table too... first professional hit n runner to make SNE?
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