The very first game of the movie with Teddy KGB. Minimum buy-in is $25,000. Mike says "I raise $500" and we can then see 6 $100 chips in front of him. So can we reasonably conclude that the game was $50/$100 NLHE?

DVD player broken?

Put in the DVD fast forward and find out....

"Sorry Joh...errrr...Olaf, I don't remember."

I beileve it was $50/100.

In the end of the movie, when Mike is playing vs Teddy KGB (the first hand on the first match) Mike open raises to "1,000 straight" with blinds at 25/50.

And somehow, Teddy KGB re-raises to 5,000, and then folds when Mike goes all in for 10,000. Tell me the regs in the strategy sections on 2p2 wouldn't be going insane if that happened in real life.

Of course, it sounds a lot better in the movies to raise to "1000 straight" as opposed to "125, because 2.5 bb is my standard raise size"

KGB was getting 3:1 to call. But he knew that he was a 4:1 underdog. So, of course, he folded.

Fair. But also, generally not a good tourney strategy to throw 50% of your stack in the middle preflop, and then fold without getting to showdown.

This was a cash game, not a tournament.

Mike: "I've got 10,000. I'm looking for a game."
KGB: "Sure?"
Mike: "You heard me"
KGB: "So, we'll play, heads up. We'll both start with a couple of racks. Blinds 25 and 50, and we don't stop until one of us has it all."

I don't know, sounds like a tournament to me...

Just because you can't get up whenever you want doesn't make it a tournament. Tournament has to have increasing blinds. I'd call this a freezeout cash game. Quite common for HU actually.

Lol...okay

They have no blind increase husng's. It's a tourney if you have to play to a predetermined finish.

Have to have blind increase to be tourney.

The chips represent dollars.

Just because you can't rebuy doesn't classify something as tournament.

Contacting pokerstars support for all the buy-ins I lost accidentally registering no-blind increase sit n gos. Those had no business being under a tourney tab and I'm entitled to a refund.

"The chips represent dollars" also eliminates most high buy in winner take all tourneys. Every single PAD was a cash game since the chips represented dollars, who knew?

There. Fixed my post. Now nobody needs to categorize this obscure version of poker where the blinds don't go up, but one player must finish with all of the chips.

All formats have overlapping similarities, these labels can be subjective. Certian characteristics are more common in one format than the other though, for example, blind increases and the way $ is represented. I listed 3 ways the movie suggests this being cash. Looks like you only stated one suggesting tourney.

If two players click the cash tab in PS, and load up heads up cash table and type that they would go HU4RLZ, then according to your logic it becomes a sit and go? The highstakes HU challenges with defintive end, are these also long drawn out tourneys? This would obv conflict with your tab clicking argument.

Maybe you should e-mail stars your qualms with the way they present their structures along with that refund request.

Teddy KGB reloaded a few times. Mike told him to feel free to reload. I mean how else does Mike get around $60,000+.

$10,000 - Paid to the Professor
$15,000 - Paid back to Teddy KGB and company for Wyrm's debt
$6,000 to the chesterfield. (At least this amount. Wyrm's debt)
$30,000 the amount Mike is left with when he leaves for Vegas. Three stacks of high society.)

I'm simply stating "blinds must increase" as a qualifier for a tourney is absurd.

Me and a few buddies used to pitch $20 in and play 10 chipper winner takes all. We never increased the blinds. That's obviously still a tourney.

Other than how the house decides to rake I think setting a pre-determined buy-in/prize is the overwhelming factor is the "tourney/no tourney" qualifiers. Rising blinds has next to nothing to do with it, though it is a common tourney feature. You could easily play a cash game where all the players agreed to bump the stakes on a set schedule if we're trying to nit btw. My simple argument is that the "no rising blinds, no tourney" argument/definition is a silly one.

[QUOTE=WOAT1Time;46704908] I'm simply stating "blinds must increase" as a qualifier for a tourney is absurd.

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I Just have never played a tourney that hasn't had blinds increase, but ok, I guess this doesn't have to be an absolute.

Though I was referring more to this statement.

I think that's accurate especially if you stress the "have to" part of it. That's the main determiner of tourney vs cash, much more so than any other aspect I can think of and certainly more than the increasing blind feature imo.

The best part of the heads up scene at the end is how Mike explains that the reason he goes all-in with pocket kings on the first hand of HU is because KGB is repping Aces and he doesn't believe him.

Teddy folds getting 4:1. Pretty awesome.

For a while, the biggest thing that annoyed me about the movie was the fact that they try to play up how intense and nervewracking the final hand is WHEN WE KNOW MIKE HAS THE NUTS. It was absurd to me how you can be so nervous knowing that he can't lose. Apparently they did focus groups on it though and people loved the version with hole card info way more than without. Just confuses me.

i think its a tournament! like a HU sng

Just fukking make Rounders 2 already!