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Old 06-11-2012, 09:43 AM   #1
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Sick Call in EPT Berlin

http://www.pokertube.com/free-poker-...8_-_Berlin_ep9

hand starts at 4:20

not gonna say what I think about the hand because nobody gives a **** about that

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Old 06-11-2012, 10:00 AM   #2
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Re: Sick Call in EPT Berlin

If Chen would`ve had an 8 he would bet the Turn 100%. Kitais bettingrange on the River is not only an 8, like the moderators try to suggest. It should contain various 2paircombos.
The raisingrange of Chen is KQ only on the River, even with that he should bet with KQ on the Turn(Same for a Hand like 1010), so I would think that Chen sometimes got KQ(more often he would bet it on the Turn), a lot ot total Air and then maybe something like 22-44(Dunno how often he checked back Flop with these kind of hands).

The Bluff of Chen is just godawful.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:06 AM   #3
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Re: Sick Call in EPT Berlin

he hero calls later on too starting at 38:50
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:20 AM   #4
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Re: Sick Call in EPT Berlin

Ok tought about the Hand a bit more ... If Kitai bets the River what´s there worse that ever calls? Pretty much NOTHING, so if he bets he bets to induce. So I don`t know maybe c/c is better, but well is Chen really betting there then?

From a Point of View of Chen:

What would call Preflop, call the Flop and then bet the River? There is nothing he would ever bet/fold just a terrible bluff.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:33 AM   #5
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Re: Sick Call in EPT Berlin

I don't think it's a good call to be honest, he's not even beating some of Chen's bluffs.. He's only really ahead of total super mambo jambo random hands.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:40 AM   #6
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Imo the amount of totalbluffs > the amount of hands like 22-44 etc.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:48 AM   #7
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Yea, but there's still a decent amount of those hands, and also it's really coordinated board that hit's a ton of hands making it that hard for Chen to be just totally bluffing. Obv we would also have to know if he's capable of turning a hand like 3rd pair into a bluff, but from what i've seen from him in that FT i think is.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:52 AM   #8
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Re: Sick Call in EPT Berlin

Did you read my analysis? There is basically no valuerange for Chen.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:03 AM   #9
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Of course not.
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Old 06-11-2012, 03:55 PM   #10
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Re: Sick Call in EPT Berlin

No way. The absolute best call in this vid is in the hand starting at 40:20.
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No way. The absolute best call in this vid is in the hand starting at 40:20.
Hellmuth would probably react exactly like Chen if he was called in that spot.
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Old 06-13-2012, 04:48 PM   #12
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Re: Sick Call in EPT Berlin

I don't like Chen's triple barrel at 40:20. It just seemed Kitai's back was starting to get against the wall and he was getting frustrated, like he was ready to make a move and not fold.

However since Chen probably thought KJ was good there for two streets because of the amount of floats in Kitai's range, I really can't critisize his play. Maybe c/f would be best on the river because he's of Kitai's desperation and him being known for hero calls but I can understand if he thinks KJ is good there some percentage of the time.
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Old 06-15-2012, 12:02 PM   #13
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Re: Sick Call in EPT Berlin

if you've been watching this on pokerstars.tv,there is quite a bit of footage missing

Episode 6 ends with 3 players with 3rd in chip Andre Morath having 40 big blinds
Episode 7 is a replay of events
Episode 8 starts as head up

i sent a e-mail to pokerstars.tv and they confirmed this and will upload missing footage soon
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Old 06-15-2012, 06:29 PM   #14
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No way. The absolute best call in this vid is in the hand starting at 40:20.
Kitai got super lucky in that hand. He mentioned after or during can't remember when that he was calling Chen down with K high regardless of whether the river was a 5 or not. If the river came anything else Chen would have won.
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Old 06-15-2012, 10:06 PM   #15
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Re: Sick Call in EPT Berlin

Nice

Bluffing river, getting raised and still calling its pretty sick
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