Took PAD off my DVR recording list earlier this month.

It would of been such epic TV if Phil would of called his last 60+k there versus Dani with QQ when Dani had the boat.

Ah. Now I understand what he meant. lol. Thanks for your explanation, Dan.

^All joking aside, thanks for the input - not trying to be a wise-ass I know you were just trying to help.

Just made me lol hard this morning to wake up and find people explaining reverse implied odds and cbets to me

How do people feel about all the VPIP PFR CBET stats? Also the lingo regarding implied odds, reverse implied odds and somewhat advanced poker in general...

I think the show showing these stats is educating the fish. People might look into that more, and the more fish who find out how to use these stats, the less of a fish they are.

To most fish the idea of seeing stats of your opponent plays is crazy and they would have no idea how to implement this into a gameplan. But this show might spark some fish to google VPIP, and find themselves here, and get educated.

Did a terrible job explaining but I think you understand what I'm getting at. It isnt just a gambling show, its more educational then say HSP or the main event.

Thoughts?

I'm fine w it since he isn't explaining it correctly anyway.

Can someone explain Daniels reasoning for saying there's no way that Dani could have had AJ in the KK v QQ hand .

I think the general public is pretty used to statistics during sports. Especially the way televised sport abuses them. This show is the same, you see someone make a really aggressive move and the other guy folding, and then they show a chart with aggression percentage. They are only used to support the commentator's opinion when he makes a claim about anything.

Stats in sports is usually done only for entertainment and only for the viewers. I guess the average player is used to stats and doesn't really consider that their opponents have stats on them, they associate it with a flashy TV presentation. Also stats on TV sports only entertain the viewer and it's never implied that the players ever adjust their game based on them, so the average poker player doesn't really consider that his opponent raises based on his tightness rather than having good cards.

commentators really annoyed me in the last episode (35) really just abusing everything PH said. i dont like PH but neither do i like their seemingly constant attacks and mocking everything he says. up to now they have been really good.
it does seem that maybe stars told both daniel and the commentators to abuse PH this week and it doesnt look right IMO

^ brool sory fro

dani would check flop w AJ most of the time... i think that was it

havent read the thread, but stapes is the stone cold ****in NUTS

I'm sure I didn't notice this during the show. Thanks for explaining it.

It's incredible that Chris would have made an error like this. It's like Rich said … .

DN assuming this about someone like Ansky's game is gonna get him into trouble imo.

Just before watching part 4 I thought, Phil's playing a lot better this week, and acting a lot better too (clearly being outdouched by DN). Still, I wonder if that's just because he's winning ...

And so it came to pass. I think there's a part of Phil that has to make these calls (2 pair with 4 straight and 3 flush on board) just to see what out drew him, just so he can go off into the act.

DN said to PH - "why he wouldn't play AJ vs you..." "think about it..."

PH 3bet (from the straddle) to 9k and Dani called. I think DN is suggesting that Dani knows AJ is likely dominated vs PH's OOP 3bet range (even given his previous aggression at the table - and his and Dani's history during the session). Moreover how AJ is not a hand Dani would likely flat IP vs. PH's range - likely 4bet or fold.

--my $0.02

the guy is a joke,
his whole attitude during these episodes (laughing when winning and being a bitch when losing) change his image from a brat to sth worse...

This all goes out the window when PH is steaming, but I do agree that Dani will chk/b the majority of the time w/ AJ here vs PH (steaming or not). My point is more that DN probably makes too many assumptions about competent players' ranges based on his own play and what he's learned in the last few months playing HS cash online.

I kinda like those segments where the players talk through the hand about what their approach and read was.

I'm amazed by the people in this thread that think "are you serious, Phil?" is bad arguing/table talk/whatever. He wasn't putting on a show or arguing, he was genuinely amazed and angry that Phil was calling him out of line.

Also completely disagree w/ this - Ansky can correct me if I'm wrong but 4b'ing PH w AJ here (tilting or not) would be pretty silly.

Calling IP w/ straddle dynamic + tilt dynamic + Dani having decent edge post flop would be fine.

Yeah I figured DN was most likely talking about the AJ preflop. If so, he may have been half-kidding, but it seemed like he was asserting that it was almost a certainty that Dani wouldn't call with it pf.

I think he would more than half the time.

Stape's comments are not made live, they're edited-in after taping.

Ssshhhhhh...

Don't give away the secrets.

All commentary on all poker shows is done during the taping. There's only one chance to get it right. They don't have time to think about the best things to say. And the commentators always get their words in without talking over the players because they're just that good!

Daniel in this show reminds me of what every kid is like after they get their driver's licence. They sit there and tell their parents all the things they did wrong to show off the new information they have.

In reality, Hellmuth massively changed his normal style and I thought played very well for the first 100 or so hands of the week. I also thought he gave Daniel an awesome scoreboard shutup when Daniel was going on about "back when you used to be able to win" and Hellmuth said "I just made two final tables at WPT in a row."