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08-28-2010 , 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by YummyYumChicken
hehe moar rahim plz!
I imagine it's done off the cuff, and it depends on who's available. If I'm wrong, I'd like to be corrected, please.
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08-28-2010 , 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Mich P Rich
Wtf is he talking about reverse implied odds w/ 54o on K83sss??
I saw the show, but I don’t recall this hand. I'm getting tired, to be honest. I do recall his saying, "Reverse implied odds, AKA … ." Does anyone remember what followed the AKA?

Anyway, Rich, if I understand your question corrrectly, I can still take a stab at it.

Sometimes you have implied odds in addition to your pot odds. You know that if you make your straight, you'll go on to win a lot more of the villain's stack.

Often you have reverse implied odds. You might be drawing to that same open-ended straight, but two of those needed cards would give your opponent a flush. If you make your straight, you might go on to lose more of your stack. In the above case, you have an unlikely possibility of hitting two runners to make an eight-high or a five-high straight. (I think that's equivalent to having two outs. Can anyone please correct or confirm this.) You also have a possibility of hitting your four or five. The point is that hitting your hand could cause you to lose more of your stack. You have reverse implied odds.
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08-28-2010 , 06:54 AM
i think mich rich meant "wtf" as in "wtf how can 54o have reverse implied odds on k83sss since he cant hit a card that will ever make him lose a lot of money"
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08-28-2010 , 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RobFarha
Daniel is a douche. Even hellmuth is gettin on him
not really...
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08-28-2010 , 08:49 AM
lol @ Hellmuth tanking w/ Queens. Also summed up his entire game with his "hold 'em is still about looking at your opponent and guessing what he has" statement.
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08-28-2010 , 09:01 AM
Phil: "He had JT and spiked a J"
Dani: "Two jacks."

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Originally Posted by flafishy
It's been hi-def on Fox Sports Florida since the return from the first hiatus.
Really? What time?
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08-28-2010 , 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by BiggieFats
"cool story bro!" LOfrigginL!
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Originally Posted by RobFarha
"Cool story bro"

LOVE THIS SHOW
18:40 mark - nice when Stapes drops the "Cool Story, Bro..."
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08-28-2010 , 09:10 AM
This has to be the best poker show on TV ever. The Loose Cannon is a great idea. Plus whoever has been choosing the players is doing a great job! Then they put Stapes in as the cherry on top! Long live the big game!
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08-28-2010 , 09:27 AM
I also really like the "Behind the Poker Face" segments.

I also appreciate that Mercier doesn't re-write history* when he does his. It sounds like he really tells what he was thinking and is honest when he admits he misread Prahlad's range.

* a lot of these guys seem to revise history when they sit down in front of the camera after the fact

thanks for not doing that, Jason
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08-28-2010 , 09:39 AM
negreanu wants hellmuth to get better at cash games. DOT DOT DOT.
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08-28-2010 , 09:39 AM
The Big Game will never be as good as HSP imo.
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08-28-2010 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Insta-4Bet
The Big Game will never be as good as HSP imo.
I don't know about that. In the first season of TBG we had more epic moments than a typical HSP season:

1. Wiggins suck-out over PH
2. Tony G needling of PH
3. Viffer bluff
4. The whole of last 2 episode.
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08-28-2010 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Mich P Rich
zomg

"Dani is in position so if he bets here it will look like a continuation bet."

wat?
Sometimes players make a continuation bet without having a hand or a draw. I felt that Rose elucidated the play for those viewers who aren't 2p2ers. What is your point, Rich?
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08-28-2010 , 10:40 AM
Kinda somewhat jealous that some people just have that quick witty mind. Stapes definitely has some gold zingers. You born with witty talent or you have to practice that ****? I'd succeed much more in life if I can make people around me laugh.
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08-28-2010 , 11:01 AM
Sick of hellmuth to be honest.Im happy stern got to him in the second last episode.Like its an easy fold on the turn and river in that hand with qq v kk.He convinces himself that the other guy has him beat even though it is pretty obvious and as he convinces himself that the other guy has the best hand he still thinks about calling,all while the cameras are on him.Its just complete attention seeking,hes got a serious problem.

Hellmuth beats nothing here,on the flop and turn the only thing that phil beats is 910 and q10 of hearts ,besides that phil has to fold his middle pair on a paired board.Its not even funny anymore.The funny thing is that he thinks for ages knowing the cameras are on him.Hes telling the table hes beats cos this guy got so lucky on him but yet he still wont fold for about 10 minutes.but yet he sucks out on the poor loose canon,calling with a gut shot on the flop and hits runner runner to crush the lc soul,hes doesnt say anything after that hand but yet if it was the other way around the house wud have came down and later on he berates stern for sucking out just like he did to the loose cannon.but the sad thing is all along is that phil always had the worst hand.
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08-28-2010 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by FlatTireSuited
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I will say one thing - and it's something that the commentators noted as well, Andre definitely understood the concept that the stack is a freeroll, and you won't win any money if you nit it up and treat the $100,000 as your own money. He just sucked at poker, but there's no way he would fold to Viffer's bluff, for example (nor would Viffer try it on him), he bet when he thought he had hands, he was willing to put money in the pot, he just had no clue how to do it.

This is exactly why I say Troy and Ernest were much worse than Andre. People might've forgotten but after Ernest won that big pot, and clearly decided to nit it up, he was STILL limp-folding.
If you want to keep playing then play and if you want to nit then fold to a nice win but that just blew my mind. I mean, what was he thinking, it was gonna be limp/folded around and he was gonna flop top boat or quads and get paid with his AJs?
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08-28-2010 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ImAllInNow
I agree that Phil is pretty terrible about this type of thing on every tv show basically, but the thing you are missing is that Phil gets mad when he loses hands. Ansky got mad when he won a HUGE hand. There's a big difference here. In poker, when you win, you stay silent; when you lose, you're allowed to be mad. I just don't think there's any reason to talk back to someone when you are the one that won the pot.
You're thinking of somebody winning a pot and saying "TY for the maneyz fish" or the like. (something like Tony G, although he's such a spectacle I don't he qualifies) That's being a bad winner. Ansky just responded to a direct insult, and his initial response included this, something like "O well since we're gonna start the personal insults."
I'm pretty obsessive when I watch TV/movies, I constantly pause and rewind to make sure I catch EVERYthing, and even then rewatch some parts just cuz I enjoyed them. So I don't say this as a troll, I literally think many of you guys are actually misremembering what happened.
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08-28-2010 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RobFarha
"Cool story bro"

LOVE THIS SHOW
+111111111111
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08-28-2010 , 11:17 AM
Just using fancy poker lingo doesn't mean you know what you're talking about Stapes but he's funny so he gets a pass.

Pretty decent week overall.
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08-28-2010 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeBandy
Sometimes players make a continuation bet without having a hand or a draw. I felt that Rose elucidated the play for those viewers who aren't 2p2ers. What is your point, Rich?
He means he called the 3bet pre (4bet if you call the straddle the first raise, which it technically is, though it's common practice not to do this) in position and the had the option to bet when it was checked to him on the flop; this is not the definition of a c-bet.
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08-28-2010 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeBandy
Anyway, Rich, if I understand your question corrrectly, I can still take a stab at it.
*sigh*

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Originally Posted by Dan87
i think mich rich meant "wtf" as in "wtf how can 54o have reverse implied odds on k83sss since he cant hit a card that will ever make him lose a lot of money"


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Originally Posted by MikeBandy
Sometimes players make a continuation bet without having a hand or a draw. I felt that Rose elucidated the play for those viewers who aren't 2p2ers. What is your point, Rich?
*sigh*

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Originally Posted by Chump Change
He means he called the 3bet pre (4bet if you call the straddle the first raise, which it technically is, though it's common practice not to do this) in position and the had the option to bet when it was checked to him on the flop; this is not the definition of a c-bet.


This made my morning.
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08-28-2010 , 12:10 PM
I sympathize with Ansky, because he handled Phil's idiocy the way I probably would have. I don't have any patience with jerks and tend to get angry, reacting much like Dani did. At least they both apologized after it was all over.

The guys that do it best are calm and witty, turning Hellmuth's arrogant brattiness against him. I wish I could do that, but I just don't have that talent. I'm on your side Ansky. At least Phil got felted in the end, so there was a silver lining.
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08-28-2010 , 12:25 PM
has anyone even thought about watching Poker After Dark since this show started?
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08-28-2010 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Conz
has anyone even thought about watching Poker After Dark since this show started?
Wuts that?

Im really starting to like this show, and if they can get some stars like Ivey, durrrr and other of those ballers, it would be the best.
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08-28-2010 , 01:31 PM
Its way better than Poker After Dark. And no Ali Nejad! Yessss
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