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Another ruling question - is action reopened? Another ruling question - is action reopened?

05-02-2017 , 11:44 PM
Hey guys.
So action goes like this, 5-10 with live 25 straddle, 5 calls including the blinds, straddle raises to 325. Player after him shoves for 425. 2 calls, SB folds, bb shoves 1020. Can the straddle repop it? He wasnt fully raised by the utg+1 who shoved less then a full raise but was fully raised from the BB.
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05-03-2017 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Leha
Hey guys.
So action goes like this, 5-10 with live 25 straddle, 5 calls including the blinds, straddle raises to 325. Player after him shoves for 425. 2 calls, SB folds, bb shoves 1020. Can the straddle repop it? He wasnt fully raised by the utg+1 who shoved less then a full raise but was fully raised from the BB.
Yep, the raise by the BB re-opened the action.
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05-03-2017 , 09:43 AM
To answer this question, all you have to do is ask this question: Is he facing a full raise?

If the answer is yes, he may re-raise. If the answer is no, he may not re-raise.

His raise was $300, so he needs to be facing a total bet of $625 ($300 more than his bet) before he is allowed to re-raise. It doesn't matter how we got to that $625. It only matters that we got there.
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05-03-2017 , 11:33 AM
yes. Straddle raised 300, and the BB jammed for 1020.

I think you're confused by the short all-in that's between them. His jam of 425 is not a raise, but anyone can still raise the straddle's 325.
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05-03-2017 , 01:38 PM
Yes, he can, and how can I get in this game??
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05-04-2017 , 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Yes, he can, and how can I get in this game??
I thought you were a limit player.

Action is definitely reopened. Like Suit said above, he is faced with a raise, doesn't matter how.
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05-04-2017 , 09:58 AM
Yes .. pretty easy one here in OP, action reopened for straddler ... But let's have some fun for OP's sake.

What are straddler's options if ...

What if BB had shoved for $600 total? ... $275 over straddler raise, $175 over the all-in, 50% rule?

What if BB had shoved for $625 total? ... $300 over straddler raise, $200 over all-in, full raise, 50% rule?

What if BB had shoved for $700 total? ... $375 over straddler, $275 over all-in.

What if BB had shoved for $725 total? ... $400 over straddler, $300 over all-in? (Ok, this one is easy.)

What is BB min-raise amount? $625 or $725?

I think the rulings here will be all over the map and that although you may get a correct ruling, it might be for the wrong reason. GL

Last edited by answer20; 05-04-2017 at 10:05 AM.
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05-04-2017 , 10:31 AM
Straddler had raised 300 to 325

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What if BB had shoved for $600 total? ... $275 over straddler raise, $175 over the all-in, 50% rule?
Straddler facing 275 more ... not a FULL raise (50% is usually confined to LIMIT games) ... he can only call

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What if BB had shoved for $625 total? ... $300 over straddler raise, $200 over all-in, full raise, 50% rule?
Facing 300 more, which is, in total, a full raise. He has all options.

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What if BB had shoved for $700 total? ... $375 over straddler, $275 over all-in.
All options.


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What if BB had shoved for $725 total? ... $400 over straddler, $300 over all-in? (Ok, this one is easy.)
All options.


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What is BB min-raise amount? $625 or $725?
My understanding is that it would be to $725. He was raised 300 by the straddler, so he would have to raise the current bet, 425, by 300.


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I think the rulings here will be all over the map and that although you may get a correct ruling, it might be for the wrong reason.
Of course, there is only one correct ruling and you have all the correct rulings, for all the right reasons.
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05-04-2017 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by answer20
Yes .. pretty easy one here in OP, action reopened for straddler ... But let's have some fun for OP's sake.

What are straddler's options if ...
See Angus's response. It is all correct. BB's minimum total bet is $725 if he wants to raise. He must raise at least $300 over the last bet.
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