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Old 06-22-2012, 09:21 AM   #1
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No hole cards at WSOP

What is with the WSOP having a delay AND not showing hole cards until after the hand is over. It is almost not worth watching. It also seems there is nowhere online to watch the events once they over. You can only catch them live or not at all. A lot of people are at work or whatever when they are on so it does not work. Isn't the whole reason poker on tv is worth watching is because of the hole card cam. Isn't that why it did not work before because they would hide them. Am I missing something or is there really no hole cards and no replays of the events?
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Old 06-22-2012, 09:43 AM   #2
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Re: No hole cards at WSOP

just the way the world works
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Old 06-23-2012, 12:28 PM   #3
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Re: No hole cards at WSOP

I agree. Makes it borderline useless to watch.

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Old 06-23-2012, 03:47 PM   #4
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Re: No hole cards at WSOP

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Isn't the whole reason poker on tv is worth watching is because of the hole card cam. Isn't that why it did not work before because they would hide them. Am I missing something or is there really no hole cards and no replays of the events?
You're missing that this year's WSOP hasn't started airing on TV yet.

http://espn.go.com/poker/story/_/id/...-2012-coverage

There will be hole cards for everything you see on TV, including the live main event final table.
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Old 06-23-2012, 11:01 PM   #5
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You're missing that this year's WSOP hasn't started airing on TV yet.

http://espn.go.com/poker/story/_/id/...-2012-coverage

There will be hole cards for everything you see on TV, including the live main event final table.
you mean after the hand is over
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Old 06-24-2012, 09:43 AM   #6
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Re: No hole cards at WSOP

if remember last year's final table correctly in the main event they did not reveal the hole cards until after the hand was over to "preserve the integrity of the game"
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Old 06-24-2012, 01:45 PM   #7
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Re: No hole cards at WSOP

Either you get to see it live and no hole cards during play or see it late and see hole cards. Apparently the viewers have indicated they wanted live. I think a lot of people enjoy playing along and trying to figure out the hand and then see if they are right when the cards show.
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Old 06-24-2012, 09:48 PM   #8
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Either you get to see it live and no hole cards during play or see it late and see hole cards. Apparently the viewers have indicated they wanted live. I think a lot of people enjoy playing along and trying to figure out the hand and then see if they are right when the cards show.
so why can't they have replays of the events so far with the hole cards?
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:57 AM   #9
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so why can't they have replays of the events so far with the hole cards?
There will be replays posted later on
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Old 06-28-2012, 10:01 AM   #10
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There will be replays posted later on
But without holecards.
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Old 07-17-2012, 03:49 PM   #11
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Re: No hole cards at WSOP

Last year during the live stream of the final table they kept saying "as required by nevada gaming law, and to preserve the integrity of the game, they would not show hole cards until after the hand was revealed". That doesn't make any sense to me considering that it was being shown on a 15 minute delay... If we were already 15 minutes behind, then why couldn't they just show the hole cards of the hand that was being shown at that time? Makes absolutely no sense. If they were showing it "truly" live, then it would make sense obviously, but since tv viewers are already 15 minutes behind, it shouldn't matter... /rant
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:19 PM   #12
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Re: No hole cards at WSOP

Yeah, but if a hand lasted more than 15 minutes . . . .
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:57 PM   #13
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Either you get to see it live and no hole cards during play or see it late and see hole cards.
EPT final tables are streamed live and with hole cards as the hand goes on. They just delay the feed, perhaps it's a WSOP thing that they aren't allowed to do this.
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Old 07-17-2012, 09:12 PM   #14
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Re: No hole cards at WSOP

What if a hand goes over the 15 minute time delay? One guy could just tank for 15 minutes and find out from his buddies what his opponent has.
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Old 07-17-2012, 09:17 PM   #15
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What if a hand goes over the 15 minute time delay? One guy could just tank for 15 minutes and find out from his buddies what his opponent has.
They could just have a clock that makes sure that a hand doesn't go over 15 mins. Should people really be taking 15 mins on a decision anyway?
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