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Old 04-13-2010, 10:03 PM   #101
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

Keep in mind high stakes poker is edited to show only the best and worst hands in order to make it entertaining for television.

Daniel did not get to where he is in poker by playing like a fish and making bad calls or reads.


Despite high stakes poker portraying him this way he is still an excellent player in my mind.
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Old 04-13-2010, 10:23 PM   #102
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Keep in mind high stakes poker is edited to show only the best and worst hands in order to make it entertaining for television.

Daniel did not get to where he is in poker by playing like a fish and making bad calls or reads.


Despite high stakes poker portraying him this way he is still an excellent player in my mind.
I don't think anyone is saying he sucks at poker in general. I doubt anyone would say that, as he's playing at the highest possible level in poker right now. Its just that his game is coming into question relative to the other great players he's against (the world's best).
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Old 04-13-2010, 10:38 PM   #103
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How can someone say eli is the worst player on HSP?? Eli has held his own and more for 3+ seasons
I wouldn't say Eli is the worst, but he overplays such marginal hands a lot. He's also been very lucky (almost as lucky as Daniel's been unlucky).

I just started listing a bunch, but there are so many, it's not really worth mentioning any single instances.
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Old 04-14-2010, 03:01 AM   #104
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

Brad booth. def him or Ivey. They in my bottom 6.
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Old 04-14-2010, 03:13 AM   #105
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

mike matuso, phil helmuth and daniel loses basically every time they go on the show.. the only time i havent seen dn lose is the first season which i just watched and he got a lucky string of cards back to back... hes a gr8 tourny player though
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Old 04-14-2010, 04:49 AM   #106
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

At least Laak realizes his relative level of skill and makes it 50k with rockets pre.
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Old 04-14-2010, 04:50 AM   #107
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Of course, I am not suggesting he is better then Ivey......but who else besides Dawn has the balls to raise to ~$300k with the 43 with no pair or draw.
Booth had 42s and the board was 367 so he had a gutshot.
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Old 04-14-2010, 07:18 AM   #108
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

If one more person mentions that Daniel recognizes the fact he has leaks and is working on his game I am going to smash something. You all have been warned.
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Old 04-14-2010, 07:49 AM   #109
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

Daniels far from the worst they've ever had.

Fred Chamanara
Amir Nasseri
Guy LalibertÚ
Bob Safai
Dennis Phillips

They're the ones i can think of on the top of my head.
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Old 04-14-2010, 08:05 AM   #110
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

The worst player ever was of course Gable Chaplin

But atleast his hand analysis is extremely educational
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Old 04-14-2010, 08:11 AM   #111
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

no he isn't!

But he suffers from TMMS! (Too-Much-Money-Syndrome)
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Old 04-14-2010, 08:37 AM   #112
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

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Daniels far from the worst they've ever had.

Fred Chamanara
Amir Nasseri
Guy LalibertÚ
Bob Safai
Dennis Phillips

They're the ones i can think of on the top of my head.

You better take that back about Dr. Nasseri.

He's like you but better than you.
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Old 04-14-2010, 09:37 AM   #113
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The worst player ever was of course Gable Chaplin
Is this some sort of level or did you really spell Gabe Kaplan like that?
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Old 04-14-2010, 09:44 AM   #114
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You better take that back about Dr. Nasseri.

He's like you but better than you.
lol, found an excellent bio on Dr. Nasseri.

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An exceptional, yet deceptive high-stakes poker player, Dr. Amir Nasseri is a physician you'd want to be friends with. He frequently keeps his opponents on their toes as he lures them into various traps designed to make him win and pocket large amounts of money afterwards. A good poker face and a truckload of tricks comprise the arsenal of Dr. Amir Nasseri, and his opponents are often caught unaware by his strategies. His devious and cunning poker playing style has made this Tehran, Iran native one of the very popular and exciting high-stakes poker players in the world. Today, this Las Vegas resident is now a familiar face after playing in tourneys that have been covered by live television.

You may have heard stories on how poker players learned the rules of the game while very young, either from people in the neighborhood or their family. These players often have head start against others, and this may be an advantage for them. However, this is not the case for Dr. Amir Nasseri. This Iranian fellow learned poker from a most unlikely source: his father-in-law. It may have just begun from just the usual male-bonding periods, but Dr. Amir Nasseri had no idea that this timely diversion would make him famous, or make him earn a lot of money. However, Dr. Amir may have been an exceptional student, not to mention a son-in-law, because there are only a few people who make it to semi-professional poker playing after only learning it recently.

It is quite common to find poker players, distinguished ones at that, who still keep regular and similarly high-paying jobs several days of the week. CEO's, engineers, and even actors continue on their professional careers and just play poker several days a week, preferably on weekends, just for fun. Dr. Amir Nasseri is one of them. Many know of his other profession, of being a physician, a reputable one at that. For most people who watch medical dramas, they can see that a doctor's life is very demanding, taxing, and tiring. Thus, it seems a surprise for many that Dr. Amir Nasseri has time to fit in three or four game and tourney sessions every month. Doctors are known to be methodical and serious people who put a hundred percent of their efforts in order to help save lives. It would only be fitting that Dr. Amir Nasseri uses the same amount of concentration and dedication to his games. This comes as no surprise as both occupations require great amounts of determination and focus in order to make it big and even win.

Although not specifically winning the main prizes, Dr. Amir Nasseri is a tough contender in the games and tournaments he plays in. In year 2002's World Series Of Poker tournament, Dr. Amir Nasseri made it to the top 12 slots. His participation in the Mirage Poker Showdown in 2005 was also met with admirable results. Dr. Amir Nasseri also became the second runner-up during the World Poker Tour and this feat made him win $20,000.
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Old 04-14-2010, 09:49 AM   #115
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

Worst of the pros, amateur fish don't count.
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Old 04-14-2010, 11:35 AM   #116
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

I feel sad for him. i used to consider him a very good player with great reads and reasonning.
dont know what happened. me becoming better or him becoming worse.
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Old 04-14-2010, 11:44 AM   #117
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

I dont think he is that bad at poker but is clearly insecure sitting with the current cash superstars. He has also ran poorly which has caused him to lose confidence, meanwhile Durrr has ran hot making him super confident and bold.

The one thing DN needs to work on if he wants to retain his viability in poker culture is to stop thinking aloud while in hands and let his actions do the talking. His insights and thoughts will be much more appreciated after the fact imo.

To be honest I dont think he really cares too much about winning anymore. It seems he is more concerned about being the recreational players representative/ambassador in the poker world and he is quite good at that. I believe DN speaks on behalf of the "common player" more so then himself. DN should be appreciated more, he is a good guy and great for the game. Ivey and the like are cool as **** but they represent the more predatory/dark side of the game which tends to cultivate unpleasant tables and scare away recreational players with money to burn.
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Old 04-14-2010, 12:44 PM   #118
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Cash games have passed Daniel by. If you are not a math player you have no chance at all vs this kind of competition.
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Old 04-14-2010, 01:26 PM   #119
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

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Daniels far from the worst they've ever had.

Fred Chamanara
Amir Nasseri
Guy LalibertÚ
Bob Safai
Dennis Phillips

They're the ones i can think of on the top of my head.
and Bob Stupak...
oh no, wait, he was the best player
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:44 PM   #120
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

[x] Daniel recognizes the fact he has leaks and is working on his game.
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:53 PM   #121
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I don't think anyone is saying he sucks at poker in general. I doubt anyone would say that, as he's playing at the highest possible level in poker right now. Its just that his game is coming into question relative to the other great players he's against (the world's best).
I disagree. I think if you put Daniel at a table of winning 10/20 online regs he would be a significant underdog.
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Old 04-14-2010, 03:20 PM   #122
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The worst player ever was of course Gable Chaplin

But atleast his hand analysis is extremely educational
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Old 04-14-2010, 03:54 PM   #123
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$100/$200 NLH SH 8,041 $-138,795 -4.32 $3,453 $1,139 Apr 9th, 2010
Looks like April has *****-slapped him. I actually feel kind of bad for him.

His tournament style depends on outplaying his opponents post flop, but I think that's pretty hard to do in Cash when Ivey, Dwan, and Antonius are all at the table.
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Old 04-14-2010, 06:17 PM   #124
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Cash games have passed Daniel by. If you are not a math player you have no chance at all vs this kind of competition.
Ummm, this might have a bit of credibility if Ivey himself didn't admit that he wasn't a "math player" at all.
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Old 04-14-2010, 06:58 PM   #125
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

This must be a troll.

Chamanara and his bluff shove with AJ vs AA preflop? Nassiri and his maniac play with no regard for position, his hand, or the opponent? Sam Farha who chases with ATC and pushes with nonsense? Phil Laak is pretty f*cking horrible too. Drop a 50k brick in the middle with aces (wait, was that PAD?) because you can't play postflop. Or limp-complete the SB with queens in a multiway pot.

Daniel is in the top of his field. He just happens to play against the small, small fraction that are better.
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