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Old 04-12-2010, 10:58 PM   #26
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

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. It seems that lately his current strategy against players like Durrrr is too just play super loose ... thats probably exactly how he would like Negreanu to play against him given his superior skills.
i agree with this. a little taggier and value betting thinner in the right spots might work better. but whatever i can see the cards.
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Old 04-12-2010, 10:59 PM   #27
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IDK get why he didnt just call that 80K??? I mean is 80k really that much for him? I doubt it. Its not like he had to call 300k or something.
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Old 04-12-2010, 11:02 PM   #28
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

hmmm i think you will find guy laliberte is the worst player to play HSP

Negreanu the worst? plz ban OP
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Old 04-12-2010, 11:15 PM   #29
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

negreanu is a live tourney player.

that`s where lies, most, of his strenght.

small ball linear poker combined with great reading ability made him what he is now.

he gets kind of confused playing deep cash games with non-linear, creative, agressive people. but bare in mind that in HSP he`s playing with a lot of top sharks.

with a "regular field", i bet he could still run over most live cash games.
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Old 04-12-2010, 11:35 PM   #30
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

How can someone say eli is the worst player on HSP?? Eli has held his own and more for 3+ seasons
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Old 04-12-2010, 11:42 PM   #31
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

I always thought safai was pretty bad
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Old 04-12-2010, 11:51 PM   #32
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Dennis Phillips?
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Old 04-12-2010, 11:57 PM   #33
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

I would love to see HORSE game on HSP to see how he plays the other games.
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Old 04-12-2010, 11:59 PM   #34
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I would love to see HORSE game on HSP to see how he plays the other games.
yeah, I kind of want to see durrrr get pwned in razz, for, admittedly, jealousy's sake
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Old 04-13-2010, 12:05 AM   #35
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

razz is the easiest game in the rotation. i'm sure if durrrr doesn't have it figured out already he would in a matter of 2 rounds.
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Old 04-13-2010, 12:10 AM   #36
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

his game on these shows clearly says that he is not even an average no limit cash game player, most of guys we see online who play 1/2 or higher play far better than he does and also majority of the guys in this forum.

He is basically limit holdem n mixed cash games player n of course tournament player, so he is better off sticking to these games instead playing with the best in world in that particular game on tv n making a fool of himselves infront of everyone.

if he wants to improve his no limit game, i dont think thats the right idea to play infront of evrybody.

Sure high stakes poker can find some real good players n then we can see some real action n great plays by those great players.

there are only 2 players or at most 3 on that table who r by far the best, remaining all are highly overrated, hope they get some great players n we can watch some great poker again.
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Old 04-13-2010, 12:12 AM   #37
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

not a dn fan, but i'm fairly sure that i'd rather have alan meltzer at my table
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Old 04-13-2010, 12:17 AM   #38
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I remember the greatest tournament player of all time. He was also a great cash game player. HIs name is Stu Ungar
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Old 04-13-2010, 12:20 AM   #39
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I remember the greatest tournament player of all time. He is also the greatest cash game player. HIs name is PHIL "MOTHER****ING" IVEY!!!
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Old 04-13-2010, 01:13 AM   #40
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

In Before Daniel Can't beat 1/2 online!!!!

Oh carp nm.

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his game on these shows clearly says that he is not even an average no limit cash game player, most of guys we see online who play 1/2 or higher play far better than he does and also majority of the guys in this forum.
Sigh. That is just a silly comment. Sure he's better than 1/2, and it isn't even close. He's not better than 100/200 (yet) but is working on it. In fact, from what I hear he is holding his own in those games. Just cause TV has overinflated his ability, no need to drastically underrate his ability.

He's a great tourney Donk who I have little doubt would with his current game be very profitable at 5000NL. Gotta give him props for recognizing his holes and working to fix the leaks.

Don't kid yourself...The majority of the guys in this forum (and on 2p2) would be large dogs to DN in a cash game.
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Old 04-13-2010, 02:09 AM   #41
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oops i meant greatest NLH tournament player of all time is Stu Ungar. Ivey does not have any NLH WSOP bracelets.
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Old 04-13-2010, 02:15 AM   #42
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In Before Daniel Can't beat 1/2 online!!!!

Oh carp nm.



Sigh. That is just a silly comment. Sure he's better than 1/2, and it isn't even close. He's not better than 100/200 (yet) but is working on it. In fact, from what I hear he is holding his own in those games. Just cause TV has overinflated his ability, no need to drastically underrate his ability.

He's a great tourney Donk who I have little doubt would with his current game be very profitable at 5000NL. Gotta give him props for recognizing his holes and working to fix the leaks.

Don't kid yourself...The majority of the guys in this forum (and on 2p2) would be large dogs to DN in a cash game.
Dude u sound more like hardcore DN fan, i have nothing to do with DN, i was just talking based on the facts infront of u.

the only reason he could play 100/200 online as he has good amount of bank roll to support his confused game.

dont under estimate these internet players, just that they are not properly rolled for high games doesnt make them bad, sure they do take time to move up the limits as variance plays a bigger role in that, unless they get a break winning a major tournament.

All the good players at every level and also all good players in this forum do have same level of understanding of the game of poker(NL HOLDEM cash game) as ur hero DN does, if not better than he does.

im pretty sure that he doesnt even stand in top 500 best cash game nl holdem players in the world
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Old 04-13-2010, 02:17 AM   #43
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

how about DN as the most annoying player on HSP? i like him as a player but he has just gotten more annoying on tv over the years
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Old 04-13-2010, 02:26 AM   #44
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

Worst players on HSP are:
Daniel
Hellmuth
Gold
Farha

That 4 by a mile.

Regarding Daniel, he is the biggest p1rick I have ever seen play Highstakes.
His quote "if u dont play a hand u wont be back" to Matusow was so out of order, everyone knows Mike is busto and to pick on him after playing every hand the worst possible way every street is just nasty.

I guess thats why 2/4 regs are willing to take a shot when he plays online and the list is 40 deep.
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Old 04-13-2010, 02:31 AM   #45
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

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how about DN as the most annoying player on HSP? i like him as a player but he has just gotten more annoying on tv over the years
Nah, this one isn't even close. His river debates are kind of annoying but otherwise he comes across fine IMO.

The funny thing is he didn't do his usual river "He could have this... or he could have this... or he could have that... F it I call" in the latest episode, when it finally would have worked out OK for him.
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Old 04-13-2010, 02:31 AM   #46
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negreanu should quit poker, he suxxXXXxxxxxxxXXXXXXX
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Old 04-13-2010, 02:55 AM   #47
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

I THINK THE MAIN FACT IS THAT HE IS A PROFFESIONAL POKER PLAYER AND HAS BEEN FOR THE LAST 20+YEARS, EVERYONE ELSE THAT HAS BEEN DESCRIBED AS THE WORST...IE LALIBERTE AND SAFAI ARE NOT PROS.
WHAT I FIND FUNNY IS THAT FULLTILT PROS COMPLETLEY DESTROY THE POKERSTARS TOURNIE DONKS EVERY SEASON.
ALSO MAD PROPS TO DWAN TO WIN BIG IN THIS GAME AFTER THIS WAS HIS DOWNSWING TIME, BY FAR THE BEST PLO NLH PLAYER IN THE WORLD.
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Old 04-13-2010, 04:43 AM   #48
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

Anyone who thinks Eli is the worst hasn't been paying attention. One of the, if not the biggest winner(s) on HSP. The guy has won every season. Maybe he doesn't look like he's doing anything special, but he's winning.
Jamie Gold is clearly the worst of the 'so called' pros and Alan Meltzer the worst of the amateurs.
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Old 04-13-2010, 05:01 AM   #49
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

DN does not suck at poker. DN does suck when it comes to his play on HSP.
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Old 04-13-2010, 05:02 AM   #50
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Re: Is Negreanu the worst player ever on High Stakes Poker?

Daniel is such a toolbox on HSP imo, almost every play he makes it makes me cringe. In the latest ep. he makes a retarded 3 bet oop with A9o vs Durrrr who is never folding. So he's oop 350,000$ deep vs a maniac genius with a hand that flops atrociously LMFAO!!! He lit 40k on fire in that hand. He makes all these donk plays and ill timed bluffs with air THEN when he actually has a hand he checks it and gets no value from it by trying to be sneaky. But in this week's episode he tops that and actually folds the winning hand!!! When David makes that raise I'm happy for Daniel, I'm thinking there you go bud maybe it worked out after all that you didn't bet the turn and here's 100k for you, then I feel sick when he mucks.

I don't doubt Daniel's tourney prowess but in cash games he is simply atrociously atrociously bad.

There is a saying that says 'a fool and his money are soon parted'. I remind myself of that quote to stop myself from feeling sorry for Daniel when he plays cash games.
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