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Old 04-05-2012, 05:39 PM   #91
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Re: Mizzi vs Frankenberger (and Schwartz's epic commentary)

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maybe focus more on the "i'm a novice, and i didn't play the hand correctly" aspects, rather than relegating that to the background of your desperate attempt to justify a botched hand. that admission undermines most of your jumble of words anyway, so give up the defensiveness

and there is absolutely no justification for that QQ hand. you can spew something about the points and blah blah blah but if you were going to fold to the shove you shouldn't have 5bet. there is no soul-read that makes this untrue, no scenario under which you did not horribly misplay the hand. people will like you a lot more if youre just humble, admit that you screwed up, and move on

p.s. mike sexton was way out of line though criticizing the play at the table of someone who just lost a large pot
i dont know i mean his story checks out, it wasnt a normal structured sitngo
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:04 PM   #92
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^He snap shoveled it in in all sorts of flips and random hands shortly after, I think it was more like "I know he has AA and I wanna look smart even getting odds" play. Didn't study the structure, but from what they said he was already guaranteed FT and freerolling. So if he was gathering extra chips for FT, this was a must-play hand, probably even with a slight negative edge to get proper CL and abuse people who have to play cautious after/later.

Anyway, in the latest one Schwartz sure owned Sexton hard in the commentary
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Old 04-09-2012, 01:02 PM   #93
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Wow what are you even doing Andy?
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Old 04-09-2012, 05:21 PM   #94
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^He snap shoveled it in in all sorts of flips and random hands shortly after, I think it was more like "I know he has AA and I wanna look smart even getting odds" play. Didn't study the structure, but from what they said he was already guaranteed FT and freerolling. So if he was gathering extra chips for FT, this was a must-play hand, probably even with a slight negative edge to get proper CL and abuse people who have to play cautious after/later.

Anyway, in the latest one Schwartz sure owned Sexton hard in the commentary
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:29 PM   #95
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Re: Mizzi vs Frankenberger (and Schwartz's epic commentary)

Where is the QQ hand everyone is talking about?
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:30 PM   #96
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I don't have the exact time of the incidents, there are at least 2 hands where they "argue" about analysis and thought process in this episode;

Watch in browser:
http://www.partypoker.tv/featured/pr...poker-5-ep-13/

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http://videos.partypoker.com/partypo...ue/s05/e13.flv

It's quite funny and I thought Schwarz was spot on throughout
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:33 PM   #97
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Where is the QQ hand everyone is talking about?
This is the rather questionable QQ hand:

http://youtu.be/2z8LhPzMsh4?t=4m20s

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This is the hand with the commentary ownage, Schwartz/Sexton on completely different levels
http://youtu.be/GEmpPs2C4qc?t=39m

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Old 04-09-2012, 07:42 PM   #98
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This is the rather questionable QQ hand:

http://youtu.be/2z8LhPzMsh4?t=4m20s
Awful.

Just shows how much of a joke tournament poker is. Frankenstein needs to quit poker while ahead.
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Old 04-09-2012, 09:28 PM   #99
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Re: Mizzi vs Frankenberger (and Schwartz's epic commentary)

It's hilarious how a bunch of people who probably couldn't scratch together enough to play the sunday storm,let alone a major live tournament,are critiquing someone with Andy's resume. Then he shows the decency to come in,and explain his play,and gets ridiculed by the same people,sadly typical. By the way,for all of you hero worshipping luke, he challenged tom dwan,and a ton of others,after calling them horrible,when durrr quickly took him up,he disappeared faster than kaiser sose!
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Old 04-09-2012, 09:45 PM   #100
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It's hilarious how a bunch of people who probably couldn't scratch together enough to play the sunday storm,let alone a major live tournament,are critiquing someone with Andy's resume. Then he shows the decency to come in,and explain his play,and gets ridiculed by the same people,sadly typical. By the way,for all of you hero worshipping luke, he challenged tom dwan,and a ton of others,after calling them horrible,when durrr quickly took him up,he disappeared faster than kaiser sose!
A lot of truth to what you say there, but.....

Do you fold QQ in that position?
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Old 04-09-2012, 09:55 PM   #101
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Hey onestep, Almost def. I wouldn't fold queens there,but the thing is,so many individual plays in poker can be contingent on other factors. All of us have made big folds in spots that probably wouldn't make sense to anyone else,or that we ourselves wouldn't make the next 1oo times the same scenario came up. Cheers
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:17 PM   #102
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It's hilarious how a bunch of people who probably couldn't scratch together enough to play the sunday storm,let alone a major live tournament,are critiquing someone with Andy's resume. Then he shows the decency to come in,and explain his play,and gets ridiculed by the same people,sadly typical. By the way,for all of you hero worshipping luke, he challenged tom dwan,and a ton of others,after calling them horrible,when durrr quickly took him up,he disappeared faster than kaiser sose!
Good post. Its the sad truth nvg is really mostly a hate forum. Andy came on here and even though sounded very defended about his poor play, we should though give him credit to come here and explain himself.
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:11 AM   #103
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Re: Mizzi vs Frankenberger (and Schwartz's epic commentary)

Makes me sad to see so many people tapping the glass ITT.
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:57 PM   #104
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Re: Mizzi vs Frankenberger (and Schwartz's epic commentary)

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This is the rather questionable QQ hand:

http://youtu.be/2z8LhPzMsh4?t=4m20s
Gross. WTF?

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This is the hand with the commentary ownage, Schwartz/Sexton on completely different levels
http://youtu.be/GEmpPs2C4qc?t=39m
I think Luke should have gotten the £200 for that commentary, he was spot-on.
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Old 04-11-2012, 04:01 AM   #105
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Imo this hand should go down to history for Epicness. If you watch this and see the smerk or Jovial Gent face when Andy folds its just a EPIC moment, its like WTF just happened here LOL. I didnt see it when i watched this first everyone check out his reaction soon as Andy folds its just priceless. Also the conversation after the hand is surreal funny i just cant stop laughing at this.
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