well i personally think Cheong is one of the best tournament players i've seen. He played it like he'd play any tournament, just sick sick sick.

I also think Cheong played great, this is a crazy play/blow up but I think part of what leads to his diecision is that he had been getting away with it for so long that once the 5 bet hits he is worried that if he lets it go Duhamel will start playing back at him more and he was so worried about letting his authority slip that he decieds to try the big play. It would be interesting, if Duhamel was light there and had finally decided to play back and this move works, to see if he ever plays back at Cheong again before Racner busts.

He'll be back.

or the best stage to try it DUCY?

If he were japanese he would commit hara-kiri.

He will be back some day. He is not being results oriented as you can see he was happy with his play. The only people who consider it a blow up are the ones who have no idea what a metagame is. This is not even close to a blow-up.

It's not the FT bubble; it's the HU bubble. Worst timing ever with such a massive lead. Just plain dumb and ego-based.

Sums it up right there.

Considering his track record so far, winning tourneys left and right, I am sure we will see Joseph Cheong as one of the all-time greats in the near future.

Sick poker mind.

He read Duhamel as weak - since he just lost a big pot. And guess what, he was. The bad play in that hand was duhamel calling with A9. Grinder's shove is so standard.

Based on his relaxed attitude post-bust, I truly believe Cheong was happy with 3rd, and once he was guaranteed 3rd he freerolled it. Based on his starting stack when the final table began, 3rd is a pretty good innings. Although personally, I'd still be playing for more mirrrions if I got that far.

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I've never seen a player like Cheong before. No one at that table knew what he had almost ever. Everyone was afraid of him. And he had ice in his veins. Either he's putting on one hell of an acting job or he really didn't care about winning or losing.

What if he was right on this play and Duhamel was 5bet bluffing - or was gonna lay something down like JJ/AQ. This would be considered one of the greatest moves EVER. Perhaps the loss in millions of dollars EV wasn't worth as much as making that play on that stage (especially if he didn't want to be a poker ambassador etc etc). For the rest of his poker career people would be deathly afraid of him - and it would earn him millions more. As it is now - with a guy who's willing to 6bet bluff 3 handed at the Main Event - I for one don't want to sit at his table. We haven't heard the last of Cheong, he's way to talented.

Duhamel's range here is light, as Duhamel said in an interview. Eventually he was going to 5-bet Cheong a bit light. so many factors lead me to believe that Cheong's shove is just a brilliant play and he takes it down enough to do it, and many times will have that 30% shot at an Ace or what have you.

Question is, if Duhamel had QQ and Cheong opened his hand face up with AK after pushing AI, does Duhamel call?

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I've never seen a player like Cheong before. No one at that table knew what he had almost ever. Everyone was afraid of him. And he had ice in his veins. Either he's putting on one hell of an acting job or he really didn't care about winning or losing.

What if he was right on this play and Duhamel was 5bet bluffing - or was gonna lay something down like JJ/AQ. This would be considered one of the greatest moves EVER. Perhaps the loss in millions of dollars EV wasn't worth as much as making that play on that stage (especially if he didn't want to be a poker ambassador etc etc). For the rest of his poker career people would be deathly afraid of him - and it would earn him millions more. As it is now - with a guy who's willing to 6bet bluff 3 handed at the Main Event - I for one don't want to sit at his table. We haven't heard the last of Cheong, he's way to talented.[/QUOTE]

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You're right and as I explained in my last post, i made a mistake in my original message. (I can't edit it). I meant to say that Cheung must have known A7 was the worst hand.

Read in an interview (conducted before FT) that Cheong didn't really care to win the ME. While the monetary benefits would have been nice, he didn't want to be remembered as a World Champion Poker Player -- and wanted to be more impactful in society.

Pretty commendable if true and honest.

Like I said, I have nothing but respect for him. I can't wait for the footage to air and everyone to hate on his play.

Then why enter the tourney.

Just sayin.

^^ because second and third place also pay millions

When will Cheong be appearing on HSP or one of the other televised cash games? I need to see more of him, to find out how good he really is. Is he another Durrr?

I have not seen this mentioned but Cheong took a long time to 6 bet. I remember watching live that he seemed to be light and trying to get Duhammel off his hand with Racener short stack. I think he even looked at his cards again. I honestly believe that if he would have snapped shove over the 5bet Duhammel would not have snapped called and maybe folded. This is all speculative but keep an eye out during the televised taping.

Think about this way: Cheong's going to play poker for presumably the next thirty years. All he has to do is make $50,000/year in profit because of this crazy play in order to break even, and $100,000/year to double that equity. I think for all the reasons stated already, alla not being afraid to 6bet bluff all-in at the biggest stage in poker is going to yield that equity easily. And unfortunately for him, 3rd isnt going to get him out of the limelight like he asked for in his FT commercial. His brilliant play made us all fanboys and we want moar cheongzz. ALso semi-off topic I never read ppls reaction to Lefrancois bustout which was totallly LOL did neone make a gif of it??

He wrote called WITH a worse hand. As in, you moved in WITH a worse hand than me, and I called you.

It's not the best way of phrasing it, but I think he meant that, and not the stupid "Called by a worse hand" statement.

Also, as has been said many times here. If you're running over the table with 3-bets and 4-bets...and someone finally comes back at you with a min raise 5-bet, you're not getting that guy off his hand with a 6-bet shove. The min raise 5-bet there by Duhamel screams "I finally have a hand to play here but I don't want you to fold whatever crap you're playing because you've been running this table over".

Cheong is obviously one insanely good player, but I think he just got a little too confident in his ability to just run the table over, based on the fact that he had been very successful up to that point. He over-estimated the fold equity there; again, min 5-bet raise by a guy who has been frustrated by your bullying of him? That's a dead giveaway of strength. Blow-up? No. One mistake that unfortuantely cost him the his tournament? Yes. It happens.

That said, if Duhamel was a little weaker, like TT or something, and the bluff worked, it would have been epic, and given Cheong an insane level of respect, so as has been said here, maybe that factored in.

Face it, he had the guts to say; go big or go home, he took a shot at big, not many will try that 3 handed, Cheong definitely knows poker and position

Lol, he was asked in an interview afterwards about the 6bet shove if he would do the same again, and he said "yeah, probably". Sicko