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Originally Posted by KingSnyder
Thats fair, but if you put yourself in Cheong's position and know that Duhamel knows that you have been bullying him and the whole table, it makes you question Duhamel's 5 bet, which was outstanding by the way. Duhamel is certainly capable of making a stand there, being tired of Cheong getting away with so much, especially taking note of the size bet, not even double of what the 4 bet was. Makes it seem like, okay, I know you are bullying everyone, and I know you can't shove or call. Cheong just went with his read and it was wrong, outstanding play by Duhamel.
I think you are being too results oriented if you say it was horrible, etc. Was it ideal? Obviously not, but you have to stick with what has gotten you to that point, and not play like a bitch (John Racener)
Note I didn't say it was horrible, but questionable. Do note that there is several millions of dollars at stake.
I obviously sees more merit to his play than Hellmuth did, thus my "flipside" bullet. And yes he does know Duhamel is capable to making a stand, but Duhamel knows that he knows that as well. Given that, it's pretty much both of them needing to make a stand at a big pot. Given the small pots that Cheong's been winning, however, it's very much debatable whether or not he could've waited to make the big pot move.
Hellmuth made a great point earlier that when Cheong make a big move, he would have AA or KK and crush them (similar to what they said about allen cunningham later). That's the best part of the style, you can have a great hand and have it completely disguised. Cheong risk never having a chance to use that to his advantage if he pulls the trigger there.
I can see why people would think I am being result-oriented, but do note that I see merits to the play. I do agree that if it worked out, he would've had all the momentum in the world and if he picks up a hand there's an even better chance he will get paid off. Yes I get it, but if you fold you have 88m, if you make the move and he folds you have about 125m, if u fold and lose, that's almost automatic elimination. That's a lot to risk, and a risk I would consider questionable...