The fact is, it was folded to Barry after Dwan bet into two people who were repping trips+ and an overpair. This dramatically increases the strength of Dwan's repped hand, making it a pretty standard fold. Dwan has to be pretty sure Eastgate will lay down trips here for this to be a bluff. . . .

Take Eastgate out of the picture, and this is a much easier -- but still difficult -- call.

Furthermore, it's quite likely Barry 3bets the flop to 100k if Eastgate doesn't call.

Barry says he started the session knowing he might have to stick it in vs. Dwan in a marginal spot. I can't think why we would have any reason to doubt that's the case. Barry's certainly not afraid of the money, and Dwan came into the match with a reputation for extreme aggression and for pushing hard in marginal spots.

It was folded to him on the turn, not the flop, which is where he said he would go broke. Wtf?

Didn't anyone hear the bet after the hand, Durrr lost a $2000 bet that he had the 2nd best hand.

great hand.. haven't listened to barry yet (I will later today) or read any analysis on the hand.

I don't know how to say this without making it look like I'm minimizing what dwan did, but... the hand did kind of play itself once he decided to raise and not fold on the flop. he can't call flop with horrible relative position, so he chose to raise vs. fold. it makes no sense to shutdown on the turn after you pulled that move in a family pot.

I thought that he bet on Peter having the best hand?

I just listened to Barry's pod cast and I was wrong Durrr did put him on a big pair. So it was a great move by Durrrr.

If it was folded to him why 3 bet it? That's a situation where only a deuce is calling, the better play is to call and hope Durrrr continues on the turn.

Saying this implies Dwan is not capable of coming back over the top.

You're also implying that Barry couldn't make a 3bet with AK, trying to push Tom off a QT-type hand, or be inducing a bluff shove with an overpair.

It all becomes a big leveling war. . . Dwan knows Barry is solid, so he can't possibly call a shove with just an overpair, right? In the meantime, Barry knows that Tom is LAG, and that Tom's image of him is probably tight, so Tom doesn't necessarily need to have the nuts to put chips in the pot. Meanwhile, Tom knows that Barry knows that Tom thinks Barry is solid. Yada yada yada.

I thought he meant he would be willing to go broke on the turn IF it folded to him on the flop.

I think the point is that, without Eastgate in the hand, Dwan gives Barry a lot of chips.

Doyle said something similar when facing Eli's bluffs vs. his KK. . . . If a LAG player flops trips, they can win a lot of money from these guys in a HU pot. Thing is, it's hard to flop trips.

I don't think anything I said contradicts this.

I still think Dwan's flop raise is FPS against a tight UTG raiser and so many opponents. However if it works at isolating a deep QQ-AA, and he does it with the right balance of Tx and TT hands, it could be very +EV.

I have no way of knowing how he mixes his bluffs and monsters though. He certainly shouldn't do it with any Tx.

IMO

After geting called by the whole table, check fold if at least 2 players shows interest

Check ****ing fold your one pair

so is the flop bet bad or not?

I agree completely.

Except if the flop action is a small bet and a call from a loose player like Eli, then I think Barry could call and reevaluate turn. The only action he can beat is weak action from QT and 88, or something like that.

If Barry had moved in on the turn, I wonder how many people in this thread (and the other ones) would have evaluated durrr's play the same way. I'm guessing about 10%.