He has to suspect his hand is already face up when he call 2bets OOP on the flop-from the blind where he had to call pre. Can he really be thinking Dwan has a better 2 there? Which one could he have calling Barry's raise from early position. Seems to me if he had a 2 it would be A2 or more likely 23,24,25,26. So then is Eastgate thinking Dwan or Barry had 1010? Seems to me its a call all the way. But, I'm not Peter. Maybe someone knows where he's discussed this hand.

Similar to Gabe's answer at the start... sometimes. I think Durr knows that on the river in this situation he has to give up on the bluff sometimes (I suspect most of the time) but that it's also important to fire the third bullet every once in awhile.

Good point that a deuce doesn't have many combinations calling from EP. A hand like Q2s/J2s/82s seems too loose even for Dwan. Tough to do, but Barry could've made this call once Eastgate folds (especially if he puts him on some ragged deuce), as the only sensible EP deuce is A2s, and he's holding two of the aces.

You're right, he does have to suspect his hand is already face up. Which means that Durr's bet on the turn is that much stronger. The flop call is a lot easier because Durr's shown less strength and he isn't yet pot committed. The turn bet is very strong and I think pot commits Eastgate (not sure - maybe?).

Durrr's range might be air / monster, but that proportion is 10 to 1 considering how few hands he coul have with a 2 and a good kicker or 1010. If Doyle, Mr B., Zig, prolly DN and Eli are facing the 100k bet on the turn they are insta shoving with A/A let alone 24 so durrr was clearly playing the players.

I question how strong that turn bet is if benyamine is in the hand, or doyle or zig. I think any of those guys would have been allin with aa or 24 on that board.

TBH, if I were eastgate or barry, the only hand I would have feared would be 77, nothing else except a2 suited makes sense and barry has 2 aces.

I think Gabe mentions he has around 500K behind when the turn call is to Eastgate. I thought Peter was an experienced enough player for him to know that Dwan would know, that he knows...etc. Altho Dwan reraises early on the flop with basically everybody to act after him...seems like strength


Oh yeah this for sure. Dwan knows what's going on so well that he has the confidence to own both of them.

"He lives in a little cabin in Durrrland"

This is why Gabe is the best on tv. If only ESPN would hire him and fire Norman Chad. Can't say enough about that last hand. I need to ask Gabe for directions to Durrrland cuz I'm movin there.

is it up on youtube yet???

not cardplayertube or youtube either

I'm in agreement with this. This small a raise at this loose and unpredictable table, UTG? Miserable. He's asking for a monosuited, connected flop where four of the seven players hit the board harder then his overpair. As it stands, he got the best possible looking non-A flop for his hand in a 7 way pot, and was STILL outflopped. He should limp/raise or at least open for significantly more. This isn't NL400 on Stars.

Sickest bluff ever shown on TV ... and he called it right after to which makes it more sicker ... on the flop I was thinking and still am wtf is he thinking I thought it was a 100% fold .. then on the turn he was moving those blue chips I thought their is no way he's crazy enough to bet when it's obvious he has to be dominated and his only out is hopefully one of the 2 10's. I think everyone at the table should be buying in for the minimum with a guy like that on the table because it's -ev.

Bingo.

This is definitely wrong. His raise on the flop was of an UTG raiser with like 5 people left to act behind him. He's not doing this with air that often. His bet on the turn followed two really strong calls on the flop... again he's not doing this with air that often.

I think that to assume that's he's bluffing over 90% of the time here is ridiculous.

+1

If it's not TV vs random players, I would agree. Because it's on TV, and because Eastgate is a bit nitty and Greenstein's hand is transparent, I'm sure Durrr tried this for publicity.

If it wasn't on TV, I think most of the time he gives up.

Well first, he didn't have air technically. His original raise of barry was to test barry's will to continue with whatever pair that barry had and just in the case that barry had 88ish or AKs AQs, he had the best hand. It's not totally unreasonable to find out where Q10 is even with that many people behind.

Once Eastgate called, he knew he had a 2 and barry had a big O/P. Given all that information, obviously it is really strong to try to bluff the turn, but again his p/f range matters in deciding what he has because it is exteremely unlikely that he has 2x in EP. Could he have 1010, possibly, but you can tell me whether it is +/-EV to give up pots with aces and trips on a 21027 board against durrr after he raised the flop strong and continued with a gross bet on turn (on tv).

Another way of putting it is do you think he makes that bet against any1 else at the table if he puts someone else at the table specifically on a big O/P or trips? Noone else gives up.

On the numbers, his p/f range indicates 10 to 1 air / monster, what his air / monster range is after he makes that bet I don't know, but I strongly suspect any other player at the table or knows how he plays will gladly stack off with aa or 24.

WOW EASTGATE YOU FISH

I've deleted all the requests for links, ty.

Those of you who have the show, PM those who were asking for links and vice versa.

Well let's ask barry the question, what did you put Dwan on when you folded and did Eastgate's fold influence your perception of the hand?

edit: I ask the second question because I just don't see how you give up aces say Eastgate folds on the flop and it's just you and Dwan. Once Eastgate called it looked like you knew he had a 2, so perhaps you seeing him fold the 2 on the turn changed your sense of Dwan's strength.

doubleedit: I ask humbly, being a railtard and novice

I suspect Durr does know that it's unreasonable to find out where QT is in this situation. Barry isn't going to c-bet in this situation with A high. He's just not. Ever. I'm also pretty sure he isn't going to bet with a pair < a ten. I can only assume that Durr made the flop raise with a good idea of how he was going to play the turn... but it was never with a thought that he might have the best hand.

Durr's pf range is wide. The flop narrows it considerably (I would say it usually removes the chance of him having a ten as well). I do think that it was -EV for Eastgate to continue with the hand on the turn or at least very close. I guess TV could make a difference... I don't really have any experience to know how it changes things.

This is a big mistake in poker. It's silly to try to evaluate his turn bet given his pf range and not take into account the flop/turn action.

HOW DOES EASTGATE NOT GET IT IN ON THE FLOP JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESUS

http://www.pokertube.com/Movies.aspx...er_S05_Ep2_1_4

Cause he's a good player, who is on at least level 3. Unfortunately, Durrr is a level above him. No shame in Eastgate folding there.

Why in the world did Barry call Durr's raise after Eastgate cold called?