High Stakes Poker S5 Episode 2 thread

[MrMudd76]

Originally Posted by siglo

gabe's commentary is annoying cause it's clear that he knows the outcome of the hands ...

this apllies to most of the people in this thread as well

i bet the same guys who argue Eastgate made a bad fold, would have said Eastgate made a horrible call on the turn if Tom, or Barry actually had a2, TT

[DonKaleone]

Loved that face by Doyle at the river vs. Eli, somebody should photoshop that with Samuel L. Jackson and subscript "I double dare you m*ther*****".

[Vermillion]

the only logic for eastgate betting the turn there is that he possibly puts ziig on a flush draw or an underpair and wants to protect his hand. nevertheless, very strange bet.

[peterpjames]

Originally Posted by exec771

Just started watching, Doyle played the KK just about perfect vs. Eli..

"If de diamond come I movin all in"

Great thought process Eli.

I would have liked a gay min bet by Doyle on the river to induce a bluff.

[peterpjames]

I didn't really like Ziig's 99 payoff of Eastgate, but I guess we know that Eastgate has been playing tighter than Ziig knew.

[KarlizL]

I dont see why is everyone hating on eastgate and calling him weak, hes obv one of the best out there and deserves to sit between Doyle and durrrr. Just because he made a bad fold cmon.

[Dhani]

I'm sure it's in this post somewhere, but I am too lazy to go through it all.
Are players, like Tom Dwan, Patrick Antonius, Sigmund, et al. playing in a different or slightly exagerrated style in order to keep their game from becoming public?
They're obviously trying to throw off each other, but how deep does this go?

I'm not an expert on NL holdem, especially televised, but I have to believe that the levels go beyond the the 4th wall of the TV screen.

[Dhani]

Originally Posted by KarlizL

I dont see why is everyone hating on eastgate and calling him weak, hes obv one of the best out there and deserves to sit between Doyle and durrrr. Just because he made a bad fold cmon.

Again, I'm not NL expert, but wouldn't you want to raise that flop, especially against Tom Dwan? If he was slowplaying that and got worried on the turn, then just call. I know it was a huge bet, but you have trips on a dry uncoordinated board. At that point, the only reason not to raise is because of Barry being caught in the middle which is potentially adding to the pot.

[Bad Beat Bill]

None of the players in that last hand played poorly imo. All three players knew that Barry and Eastgate were pretty much playing with their hands revealed but nobody knew what Dwan had. Was very astute of Dwan to pull the trigger there but I don't think this is going to work against most opponents. When Gabe likened Dwan to Stu Ungar I think he was spot on; can't think of many other players who would try to bluff an opponent off obvious trips.

[peterpjames]

Originally Posted by Dhani

Again, I'm not NL expert, but wouldn't you want to raise that flop, especially against Tom Dwan? If he was slowplaying that and got worried on the turn, then just call. I know it was a huge bet, but you have trips on a dry uncoordinated board. At that point, the only reason not to raise is because of Barry being caught in the middle which is potentially adding to the pot.

Pretty simple, they were really deep and he got spooked. If they are playing for less money he obv goes with it. It's the pressure Durr puts on you when he knows you're playing higher than you're comfortable, like this summer when Peter Jepsen was playing 500/1000 NL for a few days and Durr and him got it in on a 876 all spade flop with Durr pushing the action with 44.

[gerdm07]

I apologize if this has been discussed but I need to ask. Should Eastgate have reraised Dwan on the flop? Maybe to 80K to 90K. Greenstien folds and Dwan would either fold or reraise. This would keep it simple and Eastgate has a good chance of taking a good pot. No?

[bulls_horn]

Things that tilted me when I logged for this discussion:

Kevmath created this thread and gave specific times and how to see it, and we still got thirty responses of "what time is it on?" and "is it on youtube, yet?" and "If it's 9pm EST, what time is that in Central" and "I live in Zimbabwe, how can I watch this show since I don't get GSN?" I mean Gawd, it's not like the show hasn't been on before, it's always available on the webz (youtube, pokertube, anytube, sometube, *tube) soon after broadcast, you've likely got local listings you can check yourself, what is the effing problem? Do you want Kevmath to just come to your house at 8:45 with a laptop and show it to you? My lord...

Then when the discussion of the show starts, there's a bunch of comments like "Ooh, that was a good move", or "Why did Durrr raise there?" or "I can't believe Zig made that call". Comments about the show in real time, without any context. I don't know about anyone else, but when I watch a show like this, I watch the show. I'm not blogging, or checking any message boards, or even posting my thoughts. So when I look later and see comments like this without any context, I just shake my head. I mean, if you felt strong enough about your comment to make a post, give us the courtesy of mentioning what hand you're talking about so peeps know what your saying...

Ok, end of rant. Sorry, but I laid off 420 the other day (going "cool turkey" for a month or 2) so I'm kind of irratable.

[gggerjaldo]

barry waited a while and i really thought he was going to make the call.
WHAT IF barry had peter eastgate his hand, and is 500k stack, would barry then shove it all in? we just forget about the pre flop play and i only want to know, would barry call an 80% pot raise for ALOT of money with a small set and with durr being super aggresive and checking good hands to the end ( the flopped straight vs ziigmund )
i think if barry just thought of that hand, and of the fact that durr knows barry is a super nit he maybe could have called with the AA there. But if you dont know the players @ table, and you only know they always have their A+ game going on just like you then ist a inst fold

[gggerjaldo]

Originally Posted by gerdm07

I apologize if this has been discussed but I need to ask. Should Eastgate have reraised Dwan on the flop? Maybe to 80K to 90K. Greenstien folds and Dwan would either fold or reraise. This would keep it simple and Eastgate has a good chance of taking a good pot. No?

eastgate doesnt like big pots and ran away when it went over 200k
(replying to this hand and the a6 from eps. 1)

[moki]

Originally Posted by rizeagainst

Here's an even better question: why is eastgate even playing 42o if he's too afraid to get it in on a 2 10 2 flop against someone playing every hand?

This.

Eastgate seems to play weak against Dwan... bromance in the making?