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03-09-2009 , 05:20 AM
The most impressive thing was Durr betting 104,200 on the turn.
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03-09-2009 , 05:30 AM
He uses his image way too well, people level themselves when they are in a pot with him and give him way too much credit.
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03-09-2009 , 05:38 AM
If Barry and durrrr were colluding against Peter, they couldnt have played the hand any better. (NO, I dont actually say they were colluding! But with the level of ******ation going on in this thread, I better mention it now and save myself the time later.)
The only thing I want to hear is Barry`s thought process when he calls the flop after durrrr`s raise and Peter`s call and his (Barry`s) plan for the turn.
Peter and Barry basically messed each other up in that hand, and durrrr was smart enough to use this to his advantage. Very very sick tho to put in another bet on the turn after getting called in 2 places after raising the flop. Soulread or superuser obv.
I`m convinced that Peter would`ve won the hand if Barry doesnt make that weird call behind on the flop. At that point Peter has to give Barry credit for much more than just an overpair cause Barry`s flatcall after getting raised on his flopbet which is called by Peter looks ridic strong at that level.
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03-09-2009 , 06:11 AM
man i was expecting all the noobs to berate eastgate for folding the 42 in this thread.

u guys managed to impress me.

that might have been the best HSP episode i have seen in a long time.

eliari is boring as fudge. too respectful imo. can somone get him some cocktails?

also: at the guy who wrote out a transcript of the final 1 minute of the show... wtf? are u sick in the head or something? or do u have alot of time on your hands?
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03-09-2009 , 06:32 AM
Wauuuuuuuuwwwww,

DOEs barry get more confused by the fold of Eastgate here?


(donk as i am i go all in )
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03-09-2009 , 06:33 AM
I especially enjoyed the crosstalk after the hand:

Eli: show. show it.
Tom: I had it. I had it.
Eli: Barry folded the best hand
Daniel: well, DUH!
Tom (points to Peter, makes a well-obviously face): he had the best hand!
Barry: I was going to move in against it but I figured if he called, he could bet into that.
Peter: (oh-man-why-did-i-fold face)
Tom: Peter had the best hand. I'll make a side bet that he (Peter) had the best hand
Daniel: well it certainly wasn't you!
Tom: (makes a how-terrible-can-you-be-daniel? face while somehow not actually changing his expression)
Doyle: I bet he didn't have the best hand.
Eli: Let me look at Peter eyes. (Peter grins) Yes he did have it.
Daniel: I thought that Barry had queen ten
Tom (to Doyle): What?
Doyle: I'm taking Barry.
Tom: Small, small..but..
Doyle: Yeah, I bet you a thousand.
Tom: Two thousand? One thousand?
Doyle: Two thousand (throws in a chip) bet.
Tom: Two thousand. (throws in his chip)
Tom: Aw, now I feel like I have a bad (??side??) because (??your aces??) but we're on.


My favorite part of that whole exchange was Tom's face when Daniel says "well it certainly wasn't you!". You can tell that Tom is exerting some serious effort to keep from saying something like pointing out what a moronically obvious statement that was, especially since Tom just explained exactly what everyone had. Tom's initial gesture to Peter and explanation that Peter had the best hand was patient, like he was explaining something to a friend. When Daniel made his comment, Tom's demeanor changed to why-do-I-even-bother? Awesome.

I think what happened there is that Daniel made a misread, thinking that Barry had the best hand (along with Eli). When Tom pointed out so matter-o-factly that it was Peter who had the best hand, Daniel probably quickly figured out that Tom was right, then decided to try to apply a little ego salve by getting in a little dig at Tom with his comment. Daniel obviously did that without even thinking about what he was saying, because it wasn't an effective dig since Tom already pointed out that he didn't have the best hand. I think Tom showed maturity in ignoring the failed dig attempt, and the little bit of annoyance on his face comes not from the fact that Daniel attempted the dig, but from having to listen to the utter fail associated with Daniel's attempt, like being forced to watch someone make a competely moronic move while they are fully confident it's the right one. They took the camera off Daniel, but he's a smart guy so I'm guessing he figured out that as well after not too long. Tom's face is still priceless, though.
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03-09-2009 , 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by otter
Daniel's the only player I remember running into quads on a previous episode

it will be durrrr's AA running into BarryG's quads, it will be so ironic after tonight's last hand. my prediction, whats yours?
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03-09-2009 , 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Dos
The only thing I want to hear is Barry`s thought process when he calls the flop after durrrr`s raise and Peter`s call and his (Barry`s) plan for the turn.
Peter and Barry basically messed each other up in that hand, and durrrr was smart enough to use this to his advantage. Very very sick tho to put in another bet on the turn after getting called in 2 places after raising the flop. Soulread or superuser obv.
I`m convinced that Peter would`ve won the hand if Barry doesnt make that weird call behind on the flop. At that point Peter has to give Barry credit for much more than just an overpair cause Barry`s flatcall after getting raised on his flopbet which is called by Peter looks ridic strong at that level.
I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with a poster in this thread. But read THIS...
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03-09-2009 , 06:38 AM
2 much gamble- Durrrr will end up broke for sure one day his fancy play syndrom will not work forever. I really dont think he was thinking so deeply what they had just he wanted the pot and gambled. We are never going to see durrr fold top pair on flops like that ever i think. I think mike the mouth said it right you will pay the price in the end of the day for 2 much ego.
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03-09-2009 , 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by benjamin barker
I don't see what's so special about the hand. Anytime I have two opponents on a bone dry paired board, and I put one on aces and the other on trips, and the turn bricks out, the first thing I think is 'standard barreling spot'.

name? and where do you play? we all want to join your games
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03-09-2009 , 06:52 AM
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I believe Eastgate bought in for 400K or 500K...and I think he would ahve played his hands differently if he had bought in for 200K...All I am saying is that having bought in for 400K+ makes him play more 'tentative'...as he did when he folded his set of deuces...
stop giving poker advice if you can not tell the difference b/n a set and trips
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03-09-2009 , 07:07 AM
Eastgate's call on the flop just shows that the guy is at worst a fish or at best a mediocre player. After a cold-call he is never going to win anymore money with any of his bets and the only hands that will bet into him on later streets are hands that beat him. Just like betting against Ziigmund on turn and hitting his miracle 2-outer to be able to valuebet and represent a bluff at the same time. What was he thinking?
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03-09-2009 , 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by molinn9
2 much gamble- Durrrr will end up broke for sure one day his fancy play syndrom will not work forever. I really dont think he was thinking so deeply what they had just he wanted the pot and gambled. We are never going to see durrr fold top pair on flops like that ever i think. I think mike the mouth said it right you will pay the price in the end of the day for 2 much ego.
seriously? He friggin called out who had the best hand after the action was over? He knew exactly where he was. What else would you call thinking about deeply? That he knows the exact suits of Peter's and Barry's hand too?
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03-09-2009 , 07:34 AM
Amazing play by Durrrr. I can't blame either Eastgate nor Barry for folding. This isn't just a lagtard shoving repping thin, it is an obviously capable player betting in a spot where people at these stakes live against multiple opponents (on the flop) and two (!) (on the turn, that have called a raise on flop) simply always have the goods.

Eastgate and Greenstein showed so much strength on the flop, to bet the turn like Dwan did would be suicidal without the goods. They're just never both folding. Dwan engaged in a levelling war knowing full-well where he was at and gambled he'd come out on top.

He's a sick, sick puppy, and a neat representative for online poker. There will never be another Moneymaker, but don't be surprised if Dwan on HSP brings more people to Stars and Full Tilt.

Also, Howard? Tom is earning that 1st tier sponsorship twice over.
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03-09-2009 , 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by molinn9
2 much gamble- Durrrr will end up broke for sure one day his fancy play syndrom will not work forever. I really dont think he was thinking so deeply what they had just he wanted the pot and gambled. We are never going to see durrr fold top pair on flops like that ever i think. I think mike the mouth said it right you will pay the price in the end of the day for 2 much ego.
I would have agreed with you saying durrrr didn't think too deeply about that hand until he explained afterwards. He made his thoughts quite clear that eastgate is scared money and he knew he could get him to fold. Barry is also in a really tough situation and doesn't want to go broke with an overpair in an 8 handed pot - an arguement could be made for him folding the flop.

Im now pretty sure durrrr knew what he was doing all along.
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03-09-2009 , 07:55 AM
gawd a sick play

<3 this episode. Barry plays one hand the entire time, gets 7 callers, then his hand is so face up he gets owned. Love Barry but looooosen up or switch seats with Ziiggy yo.
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03-09-2009 , 08:11 AM
This is probably the best hand I've ever witnessed on TV. Suck sickness on every level.
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03-09-2009 , 08:36 AM
Wow that was sick by Durrr no way he is deffinetly the best player at this table!
How can you make such a play with such an asume read? He has the talent and the passions to beat them all.

Eastgeates fold was also outstanding, in 9 ot of 10 times this is the right play, Barry made the worst play in this hand ever.

1. He has to bet more money< under the gun.
2. He should never fire a bullet in an 8 way pot when there is a pair on the board.
3. He should never ever call the bet from Dwan after the quick call from Peter.
4. He should never thing a second of calling the 100.000 bet from dwan.

An Qutstanding Play from genius Durrr
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03-09-2009 , 08:36 AM
wow post count really doesnt equate to poker skill as shown from some of the moronic comments in this thread.

sick sick bluff by durrrr, i dont like Greensteins overcall on flop though, hes gotta know eastgate has better(hes gona be squeezing pre with jj-aa after 8 or so callers) and his quick cold call. i knew as soon as greenstein overcalled flop durrrr was firing turn, knowing eastgate was going to be squezed out and barry would fold aa-kk
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03-09-2009 , 08:38 AM
When you people discuss hands like durrrr vs eastgate vs barry and say that it was a bad fold by eastgate, do you NOT realize why you cannot beat ssnl?
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03-09-2009 , 08:39 AM
Yeah it was the best play you can make.
Greenstein really disapointed me there, i tought he was better.
How can he even thing a minute of calling this bet by durrrr sick sick sick
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03-09-2009 , 08:39 AM
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I think it was mostly Gabe who was saying that.

It's interesting to see Gabe pissing down his leg when analyzing hands this season. I usually enjoy his commentary but it's clear he's way overmatched by this season's players.
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You people are ******ed. The AA - QT - 24 hand has generated over a hundred posts on 2+2. The strategy is completely non-trivial. Do you really expect Gabe and GSN to stop showing hands and have him run through the detailed analysis?

Gabe does his job really well - make the average viewer think they understand how the high stakes players play (and do it entertainingly). Am I saying that Gabe is really an expert player? No. But that has nothing to do with the commentary he's offering.
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So you are saying I'm ******ed... but that you enjoy Gabe's commentary even though his analysis makes it clear he isn't an expert player... which is exactly what I said.

So... what does that make you? Both ******ed AND confused, I guess.
WTF? You honestly can't see the difference in what we posted? Notice the bolded part in your last post... I didn't claim that. The fact that you believe that is what makes you slightly ******ed (at least on this issue).
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03-09-2009 , 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by insyder19
When you people discuss hands like durrrr vs eastgate vs barry and say that it was a bad fold by eastgate, do you NOT realize why you cannot beat ssnl?
I wrote in this tread that eastgate made a great laydown!
He makes the right play from 9 ot of 10 times.
Outstanding play by Peter!
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03-09-2009 , 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by insyder19
When you people discuss hands like durrrr vs eastgate vs barry and say that it was a bad fold by eastgate, do you NOT realize why you cannot beat ssnl?

fold is standard in that spot but <<<<<<<<<< making it 85k on the flop is the best
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03-09-2009 , 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by exec771
Just started watching, Doyle played the KK just about perfect vs. Eli..

"If de diamond come I movin all in"

Great thought process Eli.
Doyle responds to this saying no you wouldn't, you'd be callin...implying he'd move in first lol great stuff

I thought Dwan's play when he hit broadway and checked it down even on the river was more impressive than his bluff on Eastgate and Barry. Seriously, who else would have checked broadway all the way down even on the river? And it worked perfect because he check raised which Zigmund called. He got maximum value out of that hand, very impressive
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