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Casino Employees allowed to play, whats the rules? Casino Employees allowed to play, whats the rules?

03-01-2009 , 02:44 PM
i dont live anywhere near a casino and have onyl been inside like 4 so i really have no idea.

What is the rules for casino employees playing in the casino? do they have to be off work? cant play in that casino? others are fine though it seems since people talk about being dealers.

im just curious since i dont realyl have the option to ask around lol
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03-01-2009 , 04:10 PM
They play poker all the time. It's much more rare now that they're playing on the clock with the house's money since the boom.
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03-01-2009 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jmark
They play poker all the time. It's much more rare now that they're playing on the clock with the house's money since the boom.
I don't know of any rooms that use shills (an employee playing with the casino's money).
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03-01-2009 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by peanutym
i dont live anywhere near a casino and have onyl been inside like 4 so i really have no idea.

What is the rules for casino employees playing in the casino? do they have to be off work? cant play in that casino? others are fine though it seems since people talk about being dealers.

im just curious since i dont realyl have the option to ask around lol
It varies from casino to casino. Here in Detroit, the dealers can't play at their own casino, but can play at either of the other two. To be honest, they can't play at any casino that is owned by the same company as the one they work for. For example, if you work at the MGM Grand Detroit, you can't play at any property owned by MGM anywhere.
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03-01-2009 , 09:59 PM
I have been in a casino where the cocktail waitresses were playing slots in uniform on their breaks.
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03-01-2009 , 11:09 PM
Casino Arizona dealers play all the time. They have some sort of 'play-list' where they can play rather than deal but they are subject to getting picked up to deal if they're needed. On the lower limit BBJ tables they are limited to only 2 employees/game. Btw: Gila River doesn't allow dealers to play which is uber-stupid, imo, bec. they could probably have 2-3 more games going.
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03-01-2009 , 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RR
I don't know of any rooms that use shills (an employee playing with the casino's money).
They probably don't do it anymore, since they have so much action, but like 10 years ago at the Sahara in the 1-4-8-8 the brush would play with casino money when it wasn't full and I sat in a game in California where a guy had a badge on that said something like "I work for the casino and play with house money"
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03-01-2009 , 11:41 PM
The LV casinos I'm familiar with allow employees to play poker because it's not against the house. We can't play slots or table games.
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03-02-2009 , 12:08 AM
In Atlantic City I see dealers from one casino play at another casino but never in the the one they worked for. I did see a Showboat floor person play poker at Harrah's once so maybe Harrah's employees can play at casinos within Harrah's other than their own.
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03-02-2009 , 12:16 AM
Commerce allows their dealers to play.

In AC, you generally cannot play in the casino in which you work, but you can play in other casinos owned by the same company.
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03-02-2009 , 01:49 AM
in tunica they have to play at another casnio. other than goldstrike ive heard
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03-02-2009 , 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by jmark
They probably don't do it anymore, since they have so much action, but like 10 years ago at the Sahara in the 1-4-8-8 the brush would play with casino money when it wasn't full and I sat in a game in California where a guy had a badge on that said something like "I work for the casino and play with house money"

I think I was probably the last person to employ a shill in Las Vegas. That was in 2000.
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03-02-2009 , 03:00 AM
The Horseshoe in Hammond, Indiana does not allow the employees to play at that casino. Neither does Majestic Star in Gary.

I know various casinos have different rules on this.

Canterbury Park in Minnesota allows there dealers to play poker.
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03-02-2009 , 03:13 AM
In LA area card clubs dealers and other employees often play and if anything it helps them hold onto a position if they are otherwise marginal (especially if they are known as action players).

~ Rick
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03-02-2009 , 09:02 AM
I'm not sure where it was, but I remember being somewhere employees were allowed to play, but NOT allowed to check-raise. They had to play ABC - bet when they had something, fold when they didn't.

It's definitely not AC - but I dont recall where I was when I heard about this... Perhaps Wendover Nevada? (on the border of Utah and Nevada?)

Anyone know?
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03-02-2009 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RR
I think I was probably the last person to employ a shill in Las Vegas. That was in 2000.
On day at the Hilton I saw the floor pull a stack out of the drawer set it at a table and proceed to post blinds. I later saw some paperwork on the counter that led me to believe he was shilling (I have occasionally seen a floor do this with their own money)
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03-02-2009 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by FiftyToCall
I'm not sure where it was, but I remember being somewhere employees were allowed to play, but NOT allowed to check-raise. They had to play ABC - bet when they had something, fold when they didn't.

It's definitely not AC - but I dont recall where I was when I heard about this... Perhaps Wendover Nevada? (on the border of Utah and Nevada?)

Anyone know?

I have worked in two rooms were dealers playing on the clock were not allowed to check-raise (but could so if playing off the clock).
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03-02-2009 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by psandman
I have worked in two rooms were dealers playing on the clock were not allowed to check-raise (but could so if playing off the clock).
In my local room the employees are strongly discouraged from check-raising if it is heads up.
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03-02-2009 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by psandman
I have been in a casino where the cocktail waitresses were playing slots in uniform on their breaks.

Lol, that is so degenerate.
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03-02-2009 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Quadstriker
In my local room the employees are strongly discouraged from check-raising if it is heads up.
Wow, that would put someone at a huge advantage playing against a casino employee.
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03-02-2009 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jman220
Wow, that would put someone at a huge advantage playing against a casino employee.
Part of the reason I choose not to play. There are a tremendous amount of reasons why a dealer shouldn't play where he deals imo. (From the dealer's perspective, of course. It's helpful for the room to have props.)
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03-02-2009 , 02:45 PM
It's probably against gaming regulations in most states for employees to play in the casino they work for. I know that's the case in Missouri and Florida.
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03-02-2009 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by psandman
I have been in a casino where the cocktail waitresses were playing slots in uniform on their breaks.
The Riverside in Laughlin! They encourage their employees to gamble and even give them pay advances for it. Lovely employee relations
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03-02-2009 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by psandman
On day at the Hilton I saw the floor pull a stack out of the drawer set it at a table and proceed to post blinds. I later saw some paperwork on the counter that led me to believe he was shilling (I have occasionally seen a floor do this with their own money)
I know some places in LA have props, get paid an hourly rate but play with their own money. I haven't heard of one playing with casino money though, unless you count the hourly rate. Either way, you are forced to play in some of the worst games, not a job I would want.
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03-02-2009 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Beale
Casino Arizona dealers play all the time. They have some sort of 'play-list' where they can play rather than deal but they are subject to getting picked up to deal if they're needed. On the lower limit BBJ tables they are limited to only 2 employees/game. Btw: Gila River doesn't allow dealers to play which is uber-stupid, imo, bec. they could probably have 2-3 more games going.
CAZ allows their dealers to play AND employs props (but not shills).

So, dealers at CAZ are allowed to finish their shift out when it's slow as players (badges on) -- and they're allowed to play as civilians when they're not on the clock. CAZ also employs a number of "hosts" that get a tiny hourly wage for playing. They work mornings and afternoons mostly - starting their shifts in time to keep the overnights alive. They are also badged -- although CAZ rules (or just enforcement) about displaying your badge are lax. They're often pinned under jacket lapels, backwards, etc.

CAZ also limits the number of employees per table to 2 or 3 -- ostensibly under the guise of yet-another-rule-to-void-the-jackpot.

Also FWIW, dealers there run the gamut from super-tight just-getting-my-hours-in-while-not-dealing-guy to crazy let's-gambool! guy. The only consistent factor is that they tip each other well.

Last edited by The Palimax; 03-02-2009 at 04:03 PM. Reason: No actual edit -- just saw you mention 2 dealers/table already...
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