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04-10-2012 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
We've all been in duhamel's state of mind where you've been playing too long and you snap a little when you realize you havn't had a chance to play a hand in awhile and now ur beat.

Afflack cried like a softy hahaa. Doesn't he know what poker is?
But with 14 people left in the main event ? I'm surprised he didn't give up on the hand.
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04-11-2012 , 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by joeyrulesall
But with 14 people left in the main event ? I'm surprised he didn't give up on the hand.
When you are waiting for that bubble to burst, in this case the final table bubble, it can be excruciating. Short stacks all-in seem to suck out every time, you had a chip lead now your getting even with the pack, you've had to drop a deuce for two hours....anyone can snap a little. Its better to snap with outs.

Duhamel wins the clip even though he got it in bad. He's trying not to laugh and Afflack is crying like a little kid whose mommy won't buy him a toy. I mean it's a shame how poker has lost a certain dignity with the rise in skill of socially inept children who learn to play on the internet.

Why didn't you call Sammy? Why?
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04-11-2012 , 04:38 AM
i also would like Sammy to call, but we all should admit that Moneymaker attracted a lot of fish. which is great for the game.

If Sammy took the title i dont know...
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04-11-2012 , 10:48 AM
Sammy was just as bad as moneymaker. I'm glad he lost.
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04-11-2012 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by thehempy
Priceless
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04-11-2012 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by KaizerSoze
Priceless
Lol. I just realized what that pic was.
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04-12-2012 , 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by WastedYears
Hes playing to win the tournament. The standard low variance option would be to 5bet jam, but Matt was trying to double up and become a massive chip leader to win the tournament.
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Originally Posted by DonkeyKong32
That is being results oriented. He got him to put all his chips in the pot with 21% equity with one card to come. A 5 bet shove likely gets Duhamel off the JJ, where he is crushed. He set the trap masterfully and just got unlucky. As the old cliche goes, "thats poker"
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Originally Posted by joeyrulesall
Why?? He played it perfect just got unlucky.
Are you all thinking Duhamel always folds? I think Duhamel calls a 5 bet shove slightly more than half the time.
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04-12-2012 , 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MoneyBoye
LOL @ this fatty's lips quivering, he acted like a broad. It was probably good for him that he was eliminated, some people just aren't built for this (like that australian Hewitt guy last year).
you and all the other haters should give up the tough guy act, the kid took a bad beat for easily over a million $ in equity. doubt you know what that feels like -- i sure don't, but obviously it would be upsetting to say the least. some would have hid their emotions more (and some would have gone in the other direction and went ballistic at the table) but it doesn't mean they'd have felt any less crushed
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04-12-2012 , 04:58 AM
Can't believe how bad I would feel after taking such a horrible beat for tons in equity. I watch this video every time I lose a huge pot as a favorite and it somehow makes me feel better
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04-12-2012 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by blankoblanco
you and all the other haters should give up the tough guy act, the kid took a bad beat for easily over a million $ in equity. doubt you know what that feels like -- i sure don't, but obviously it would be upsetting to say the least. some would have hid their emotions more (and some would have gone in the other direction and went ballistic at the table) but it doesn't mean they'd have felt any less crushed


Well said.
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04-13-2012 , 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by blankoblanco
you and all the other haters should give up the tough guy act, the kid took a bad beat for easily over a million $ in equity. doubt you know what that feels like -- i sure don't, but obviously it would be upsetting to say the least. some would have hid their emotions more (and some would have gone in the other direction and went ballistic at the table) but it doesn't mean they'd have felt any less crushed
It wasn't that bad of a beat.

There should not be crying in poker. Be a man. Don't cry over a game. It's just a shame that children are playing poker. What's next? housewives are going to start watching sports? Are they going to outlaw dunks because they damage the other player's self esteem? The poker table used to be a place where a man could go and not hear women's nagging or children crying. It just sucks that that's not true anymore.
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04-13-2012 , 05:56 AM
Afleck clearly should have checked back the turn

Crying like the little bitch that he is, proves that he wasnt mature enough to handle being world champ

gg ul
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04-13-2012 , 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by joeyrulesall
Well said.
+1
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04-13-2012 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
It wasn't that bad of a beat.
in terms of life-changing equity, it was. losing an 80/20 for $200 or $20 or whatever people here play for isn't exactly the same as losing it for a monster chip lead nearing the FT of the main event. obviously that kind of thing is likely to happen to someone that deep in one of the biggest tournaments in the world, but it doesn't mean you can be entirely prepared for the moment it happens to you
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04-14-2012 , 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by blankoblanco
in terms of life-changing equity, it was. losing an 80/20 for $200 or $20 or whatever people here play for isn't exactly the same as losing it for a monster chip lead nearing the FT of the main event. obviously that kind of thing is likely to happen to someone that deep in one of the biggest tournaments in the world, but it doesn't mean you can be entirely prepared for the moment it happens to you
Well when you become a grown man you realize that these things happen and you still won a lot of money and you have some acceptance of the nature of things. I do understand the crying feeling. I have felt that way playing team sports in high school when we lost. But you don't actually do it, especially in something like poker when you are playing for money and still had a very nice cash.

You play poker for the money, not for the glory. Too much variance involved to play for glory. You win Wimbledon then yeah that's glory because you're not defeating Darvin Moon for it. Maybe he wanted the fame? I hear a lot of player's on TV talk about it's not about the money it's about the bracelet. lololololol. If I was heads up in a tourney I would take second place trinkets for first place money if any fool wanted to make that trade.
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04-14-2012 , 08:45 AM
Looking at it from Affleck's perspective, it's a pretty terrible board for AA on the turn. So in that sense it's not really such a bad beat, because Duhamel's range is so strong against him in that spot. I think Affleck only expected to have the best hand ~50% of the time on the turn.

Bear in mind Duhamel 4-bet preflop and check/called the flop. So I think we can take AK, AQ, or 88 out of his range. If we put Duhamel on 77,99-KK then he is actually the favorite on the turn with 56.8% equity. This is assuming he wouldn't have 4-bet with hands like JTs, T9s, etc.

If you include 87s-KQs, Duhamel's equity drops to 48.2%. But again, those hands are less likely because of the 4-bet.

Affleck said "kings, right?" but obv he was being optimistic, because kings are pretty much the best possible hand that Duhamel could have (from Affleck's POV). Affleck played it correctly, but this was a situation where both players put the money in knowing they were likely to be behind.
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04-14-2012 , 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DeepFryer
Looking at it from Affleck's perspective, it's a pretty terrible board for AA on the turn. So in that sense it's not really such a bad beat, because Duhamel's range is so strong against him in that spot. I think Affleck only expected to have the best hand ~50% of the time on the turn.

Bear in mind Duhamel 4-bet preflop and check/called the flop. So I think we can take AK, AQ, or 88 out of his range. If we put Duhamel on 77,99-KK then he is actually the favorite on the turn with 56.8% equity. This is assuming he wouldn't have 4-bet with hands like JTs, T9s, etc.

If you include 87s-KQs, Duhamel's equity drops to 48.2%. But again, those hands are less likely because of the 4-bet.

Affleck said "kings, right?" but obv he was being optimistic, because kings are pretty much the best possible hand that Duhamel could have (from Affleck's POV). Affleck played it correctly, but this was a situation where both players put the money in knowing they were likely to be behind.
Yeah, his turn shove is pretty thin. If he gets called, he's only really beating KK. But there's 18M in the pot and he's only got 11M behind so the money's going in anyway.

Him crying about it was pretty lol though. I'm sure he didn't get that far without sucking out worse than that a few times.
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04-15-2012 , 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DeepFryer
Affleck said "kings, right?" but obv he was being optimistic, because kings are pretty much the best possible hand that Duhamel could have (from Affleck's POV). Affleck played it correctly, but this was a situation where both players put the money in knowing they were likely to be behind.
The other hands in his range are snap-calling so when Duhamel takes a lot of time to decide, Affleck clearly thinks he has the best hand.
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04-15-2012 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by osefiwin
Yeyeye, he wanted to gamble.

When he called the shove I remember he asked Affleck if he had tens & nines. Not tens or nines, tens & nines, T9. Clearly he was putting Affleck on the wrong range, containing a lot of hood and outplay-postflop hands, and he called against that range even though he had blockers to the pair+draw part.
English is not his first language, why would he put him on 10-9 after he flatted a 4-bet? He clearly meant 10s or 9s. But I agree that Duhamel never put Affleck on AA, KK or maybe even QQ.

Also, Duhamel was getting 3 to 1 and was 4 to 1 at worst (does anyone ever flat with KK there?). If you include a small possibility for a bluff (AK mostly) and the implied odds of moving up the ladder big time... I don't see how it is the worst call ever. Questionable for sure, but tournament poker is more about gambling than cash-games.
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04-22-2012 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty313
he knew if he won he would be in a great position to win it all, or atleast coast into a top 3 or 4 finish

but if he folded he would have no where near the chance of winning.

The reward for gambling was greater than folding
So if he makes the right play and folds his chances of winning are no where near his chances if he gets it in in bad shape.

Im pretty sure that making the right decisions is more important and +ev than trying to make a hero call, then trying to suck out in an attempt to come 3rd or 4th.
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04-24-2012 , 04:36 AM
sickest hand of his life imo. thought we will never see duhamel again, but he showed to be a good player
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07-26-2015 , 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by thehempy
ROFL

as far as Sammy.. lol Sammy
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07-26-2015 , 12:36 PM
Duhammels vs Affleck + Duhammel's explanation

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07-26-2015 , 06:25 PM
Given Affleck's previous ME history and how well he played in this tournament, I honestly think this is the harshest beat that I've ever seen. You can't not feel for him.

Duhamel's move wasn't fishy, just incorrect in this spot. He's proved himself to be one of the best multiple times since, so no one's the fish here. Just sucks for Affleck.
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07-26-2015 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by GoingSouth
Duhammels vs Affleck + Duhammel's explanation

Has to be the most memorable hand ever of ESPN's WSOP coverage; I never get sick of watching it.
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